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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2001, 12:53:00 PM »
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That would simply be mere speculation on your part. Nothing has been decided as yet, so there's nothing to support your hypothesis.

Not mine. Putin has stated as much.
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« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2001, 01:14:00 PM »
Speculation until and if it happens.

The Putin/NATO thing would make that interesting as well.

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« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2001, 01:26:00 PM »
Toad, with such logics we can call all NMD program a speculation.

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« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2001, 02:04:00 PM »
Exactly... Putin has stated in no uncertain terms that if the United States fields an NMD system, Russia will increase the number of MIRVs on their ICBMs.

Doesn't sound speculative to me.
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« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2001, 02:33:00 PM »
what Nifty said

how many nukes do you think it takes to destroy a city? whats the big deal if putin increases his warhead count? they can destroy us now 100 times over and us them. all this hoopla over a defensive weapon amazes me. sounds like the ruskies just needed an excuse to publicly play with their nukes. he's probably thankful for the excuse, though he better be sure to point a few more at his new red friend..
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« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2001, 04:01:00 PM »
The more warheads Russia has, the more they can lose, or sell, the more that can end up in a smaller "rogue" state.

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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2001, 06:09:00 AM »
Pretty funny how now we fear total nuclear war when before there was some threat of a few rogue nation nuclear warheads  :).

Yeah yeah, I know.

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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2001, 12:26:00 PM »
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Toad, don't tell fairy tales about "democracy" and "people's decision".
Her is talking about US, not Russia.

Americans, or their Congress will vote exactly as they will be supposed to.
 Supposed by whom? Was last year 50/50 (withing a fraction of one percent) result planned and staged by someone? It wouls be much easier to stage a victory by a significant margin then an almost even score.

The party that will have more money and access to media will win undoubtely.
 We have only two parties worth mentioning - Democratic and Republican. They raise similar amounts of money and similar access to media.

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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2001, 02:51:00 PM »
The difference between Clinton and Bush is the intent. Bush intends to field an ABM system.[/QB][/QUOTE]


So, somehow it's better that Clinton continued funding a program he had no intention of building?  PORK!!!!!!!!!

And who benefitted from his sabre rattling?  The Chinese, the arms dealers, and the DNC.

I am ambivalent to missile defense, but this thread interests me for it's political flavor...always interesting to hear viewpoints OTHER than the ones we are told we should have here in the U.S.

However, in my childlike heart of hearts, I wish Bush had said "I am going to be the President that takes man back to the moon and starts us on a course for permanent existence on other worlds."

Disappointed, as usual.

PapaH
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