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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2001, 08:14:00 AM »
IF the Republicans can vote 98-0 for Janet Reno, then I fully expect the Dems to vote totally for Ashcroft!

About religion, when Gore said the 'Clinton was a gift from God' back in 1996, not one news media outlet or democrat made a stink, but when God is mentioned in Ashcrofts resume for A.G., all hell breaks loose, wheres that double standard, Dems?  

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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2001, 05:25:00 PM »
 This choice has given me a new level of respect for President elect Bush. No. I'm not a big Ashcroft fan. He is a little to conservative for my taste. But, 2 things became apparent with this appointment.

 First, the liberal Dem,s who said the closeness of the election would force Bush to cater to there whines. Just got a big (finger) from the man.  Second, If your going to be a Republican. Be one. That's what the people who voted for you had a right to expect. Bush isn't looking for wiggle room, the way clinton did.

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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2001, 06:03:00 PM »
I know Ashcroft and he can be an ass. However, so can everyone else.

I was messing around with the sister of his Chief of Staff in 84-86. I had access to the Governor's office several times plus, had to deal with him at the airport.

I respect him as a person and he will be an average AG. But, on a one to one level, I really think he is still an ass. (just MHO)


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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2001, 06:30:00 PM »
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Yes, I believe there is a difference. yes, they are all still politicians but the people and ideas behind them are coming from two different ends of the spectrum. I don't believe we will see the anyone sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom over the next 4 years, among other things.  

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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2001, 06:38:00 PM »
 
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I don't believe we will see the anyone sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom over the next 4 years, among other things.

I bet you $1,000 your wrong!!! Want to bet?

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« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2001, 07:03:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Ozark:
I bet you $1,000 your wrong!!! Want to bet?

I'll bet you a grand that an intern won't come out and say she has given head to the President in the White House. Want to bet? I'll bet you a grand that the PRC did not donate one cent to the Bush campaign, want to bet? Want to bet that the next four years will restore some degree of dignity to the Oval office after it's decline the last eight years, want to bet?

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« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2001, 07:19:00 PM »
Don't spin....back to my point!

 
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I don't believe we will see the anyone sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom over the next 4 years, among other things.

What's your answer?

BTW: I have the same dislike for ALL entrenched politicians. So many on all sides think it's...."for the party, by the party and of the party." Some where along the way, many, if not most, forget about the people.


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« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2001, 08:09:00 PM »
I just couldn't resist.
 http://www.onion.com/onion3701/bush_nightmare.html

BTW Ozark is right Ashcroft is an ass. :P

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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2001, 02:31:00 AM »
 
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I don't believe we will see the anyone sleeping in Lincoln's bedroom over the next 4 years, among other things.

Modify that to be "I don't believe we'll be seeing Lincoln's bedroom rented out in the next 4 years."

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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2001, 03:40:00 AM »
I am just curious. is the the president who claimed he'd bridge the gap between the dems and the reps?

First of all, to me he seems more and more like a galleon figure - a puppet for the public to look at while his daddys old pals do the job quietly in the background.

Secondly, by selecting appointees such as Ashcroft who are controversial to say the least, he isn't doing much to cool down the bipartisan mood in Washington - quite the contrary.

And, I know religious people. I've spent my life debating issues with them (and aye, I can be serious, just not on this BB  ) and most of the people I've talked to hold the laws of their god/religion much above the secular laws. Despite Ashcrofts reassurances, I can understand the skepticism coming from the libs. If Bush was smart, he'd have seen this coming too. So we're either left with a) Bush ain't smart or b) Bush is smart but is going ahead poking at the libs knowing what it does to the mood because Ashcroft is such a dandy great man.

Dumb or a liar, which is it?

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« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2001, 05:19:00 AM »
A President's Cabinet is his own set of personal advisors. He's got a right to pick them as he sees fit. He's picking his "squad" if you will.

Even allowing the Senate Democrats themselves to pick an AG for his cabinet would do nothing towards "uniting this divided country (lol)"; it would simply put someone he couldn't trust in his Cabinet meetings.

Once he gets his team in place then let's see what he does with it. His proposals, budgets, legislation ...developed by his team...will determine how well he does.

As far as uniting and all that cr*p...I'll wager the US will still be here 4 years from now with the same form of government and we'll still have one of the better economies in the world scheme. We'll still be the market everyone wants to be in and we'll still give more favorable trade concessions than we receive from our trading partners.

...and we'll still be arguing over the same domestic issues because NO ONE in DC, Democrat or Republican is really going to try to solve them. If they solved all the problems they'd be out of work, right?

Clinton/Gore had 8 years to solve all those problems that Gore brougt up in his campaign. Why didn't they solve them in the previous 8 years? Because it's simply not going to happen, no matter what party holds the White House.

In short, not much is going to change...no matter who had won the election.
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2001, 07:42:00 AM »
what AKDejaVu said.

Yep, Toad hit it on the head. Overall though, I think the US will gain back some of the global respect lost over the last eight years.

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« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2001, 08:26:00 AM »
Toad, so you're saying that Bush is the LYING PIECE OF SH*T RAT *SS I think he is? Lying about getting people together, lying about being a middle of the road republican capable and willing to work across party lines.

Ok, ok, I am laying it on thick and you know it. Just wanted to illustrate how EASY it is to play the name calling game. And you Reps have done plenty of it on this bb, more so than the (very few) democrats.

And I always favour the outnumbered beaten to the floor poor guy  

I wonder what his next lie will be - let's see, that the missile treaty isn't valid anymore, because he says so?

You guys whined over Clinton. Why not over this man?    

YEEEHAW, 4 years of ez mode target practise.    

It is good to be king.

Eagler, I don't think the US has lost respect over the last 8 years - most Europeans have a better relationship to the US now than they used to have, simply because Reagan represented the old guard, the Cold War Commie Hunter. Now, the US is still immensely powerful but not involved in as many dirty operations inteded to undermine socialists/communists everywhere.

We'll see about respect. As it is, apart from some looney states, I feel most have a good amount of respect for the capabilities, economy, military strength and commitment to internal interests of the US.

Respect of the US culture is somewhat different though. With that there are good and bad sides (there as here) and no president will ever be able to change that  

At leat Powell was a dmaned fine choice.

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