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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2006, 01:18:48 PM »
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So you're asserting that bombers are not heading towards obsolecense?

My belief is that the price of smart weapons will drop enough that they will replace bombers.  Tiny cruise missiles that can dodge through canyons (avoiding threats that would get a bomber) will drop in price, and improvements in artillery and soldier deployed weapons (like the smart guns that can fire electronically fused grenades) will dominate the battlefield of tomorrow.  Saturation bombing is going to be less and less relevant going forward based on the nature of threats we're facing.  No big standing armies, it's more person-to-person now.

I'm guessing that a new bomber project would become seen similar to the Seawolf submarine: A fantastic technology that can do amazing things...  that are no longer needed.


My actual belief is that the United States will no longer need long-range manned bombers within the next century. I only say "new bomber" because I feel as if UAV technology won't be on that big of a scale before the B-52's lifespan runs out. They'll have to have another manned bomber to fill the gaps.

Keep in mind a bomber is anything that will drop payload on a target. As you said, Tomahawks can be bombers with the right equipment. I think that is the direction we're headed.

It'll just be some time before we see it.

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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2006, 01:22:06 PM »
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The Spirit already costs $2 billion, and making it a UAV would drive the cost up even more. There are less than 12 (I think) in the Air Force rotation and they're rarely used. Deployed properly they're a great asset, but they can't be used like the Pentagon wants. The B-52s are used extensively but parts will run out eventually and the airframes can only be upgraded so many times before they just won't stand up anymore. They're going to have to develop a new bomber before 2050 if they hope to remain in the arms race.


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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2006, 01:32:50 PM »
Well, perhaps "arms race" isn't the right term, but the United States is always trying to be on top with the very latest and best technology to maintain air superiority the world over.

I guess that's what I meant to say. :)

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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2006, 01:39:10 PM »
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The B-52 has a service time until 2045.
I think the world will have run out of oil by then, or will be very close to it...

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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2006, 01:52:21 PM »
Yeah, like they'd let that stand in the way of a functional army..
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2006, 02:19:34 PM »
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Yeah, like they'd let that stand in the way of a functional army..


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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2006, 02:24:16 PM »
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Buy a couple of hundred of these for close air support. I am sure you could find enough pilots.
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2006, 02:40:42 PM »
You'd find more Pa-28 pilots.

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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2006, 04:22:43 PM »
After all, it IS the Piper WARRIOR, right?
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2006, 04:39:26 PM »
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I think the world will have run out of oil by then, or will be very close to it...


ever worse than that, we are going to run out of pork by 2035.