Author Topic: Something for bombers... (Read 1397 times)

Kurt · « **Reply #15 on:** March 05, 2006, 11:50:00 PM »

wOw... see if you can find a way to take that personally and be deeply offended.... Jeeps.

I'm not a toolshed only pilot, but thanks for your confidence.

I miss the old bomb site more than you'll ever know... Largely because my squad annual championship used to include a bomber challenge... But now that any 4th grader can pikle barrel a bomb from 96 million feet its rather redundant.

But none the less, you don't think your remark that at "ten minute practice in a buff can own the arena?" Is just a small bit absurd?

Come on, like buffs are this indestructable force?

All it takes to stem the 'buff' tide is a few fighters willing to go above 15k feet and choose anything other than a dead six attack.

I just don't think it is as out of balance as you are trying to say it is. Anyone who choses to kill a bomber can kill it more easily than the same bomber can kill those precious FH's.

Bombers aren't out of balance. They are just something that some people don't like... Not different from GV's, Ships, airplanes... Heck, you name it.. Some one in this game doesn't like it.

It is really no different than all the dummies who can't figure out that the way to defeat a ME262 is to turn your plane.

Nothing in AH is over powered... Its just that some of the players are under-brained.

And if the old strat system was back, the bombers would have something other than FH's to hit.

It just seems to me that what you're saying is that you want bombers to go do something irrelevant to the game... Because when they hit your FH its kind of inconvienient...And that my friend is just a bit selfish. Because the bomber pilots are just as into this game as anyone else. Why should they be punished?

You want the FH to live... Fine, get up there and shoot the bombers. But if you want bombers to hit something else, then put something on the table that impacts the game...

wishing bombers would go attack vacant chess boards is absurd.. the fact is that bomber pilots impact the game by taking out FH's... They used to do it by hitting strat, but the rules changed, and thus so did the tactics...

Would you prefer that they drop pillows?

KTM520guy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2006, 12:07:19 AM »

Bombers are easy to shoot down if you know how. If you don't, well....

Boxboy · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2006, 11:05:41 AM »

Heheheh I have been around the flight sim game (AW, ck, wb, ah, AND NOW ahII) a long time (CUPID was BigJim for years prior to that it was a tail number that I can't remember and now this one cause I wasn't sure I could get BigJim back after having been gone for 8 years).

Buffs have always been and always will be a tough situation in the sim world, them that likes em say that they have nothing to do and are to easy to kill, them that hates em say that they do too much and are too tough to kill.

I think Dale has tried about every method he could think of to "solve" this problem, this last rendition being about the best I have seen not too tough but not too easy either (this is MUCH better than the WB's otto guns).
I had thought that the .50's in the rear had been increased in lethality but I was wrong and Dale explained the phenomina of why it seems that way.

That said we STILL to this day see some guys using Buffs in the old AW "deathstar" role and a new one I hadn't seen before "as dive bombers"
which only goes to show that in the MA no matter what they do to make it real, some guys will find the cracks and game the game.

Jim "Boxboy" Harrison

Kurt · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2006, 11:26:27 AM »

Wow, look at me rant! I really gotta stop coming to this board when I've had vodka.

I don't disagree with anything I said above, so I'm not retracting it, but I didn't mean to be such a punk about it. Sorry Del.

Stang · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2006, 11:29:33 AM »

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I don't disagree with anything I said above, so I'm not retracting it, but I didn't mean to be such a punk about it. Sorry Del.

Well you sure came off like one. lol.

Kurt · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2006, 11:38:13 AM »

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Originally posted by Stang
Well you sure came off like one. lol.

Hey, I can't be all that bad, I've never had one of my posts edited by Skuzzy or anything like that...

dedalos · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2006, 03:41:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Kurt

But none the less, you don't think your remark that at "ten minute practice in a buff can own the arena?" Is just a small bit absurd?

Come on, like buffs are this indestructable force?

What do you think? Check my buff score. How long do you think I practiced? So far I have missed one time this tour due to a hit from puffy ack (if you could imagine that)

Yes, HT did make it easyer. Easyer for the buffs.

Delirium · « **Reply #22 on:** March 06, 2006, 05:15:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Kurt
I don't disagree with anything I said above, so I'm not retracting it, but I didn't mean to be such a punk about it. Sorry Del.

Hey, no problem... I didn't disagree with what you said either, just how you said it.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2006, 06:02:03 PM »

How about lining the bunkers up in neat little rows, and softening them so that the lightest load of ord carried by a fighter would be sufficient to disable ord?

That's pretty much the reverse of the situation we've had for years. Then, after a few years of bomber fans complaining about not having ord enabled, and being unable to fly bombers, we could relocate 1 bunker to an opposite corner of the field, so that a maximum of 2 passes would be required to knock ordnance down again.

ChopSaw · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2006, 10:44:48 PM »

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That would be asking to much.

Knights last night ran 2 large buff raids on A9. First one I discovered wondering why there was a large dar bar and found at least 15-20 boxes of buffs with many 51 escort planes. Ended up being one of the only ones that went against this force and I at the time was in a jet. They ended up flattening 9. They ended up taking the base but we took it right back while ostys camping their field (got 18 in my osty camping them in their take off hanger ).

A hour or two later, knights do the same exact thing. Except this time they brought more buffs and more escorts. We had a little bit more rooks to meet them but to now avail they hurt 9 pretty bad again.

Didnt help either that each time these buffs were so close together that trying to attack them is stupid as them lazer guns can hit anything.

Thought it was odd as well on the second wave they did, I sat behind a 24 and sprayed 200 rounds from a nik into the dead 6 of a 24. As he takes off my tail after I put 200 rounds in that I find that not a single thing of damage was put on the 24. Find it a little rediculous that putting 200 rounds from a nik put no damage into that 24.

It seems impossible that you did not do some damage, but likely that it wasn't in a critical area. Depends how far away you are and where you hit them.