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« Reply #60 on: March 13, 2006, 11:17:05 AM »
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Amtrak has a engine that kinda looks like a bullet train

I think you are thinking of this.....

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« Reply #61 on: March 13, 2006, 12:19:18 PM »
For many years now, the local government here has been trying to get "Mass Transit" going to alleviate the traffic problems.  We have one main freeway leading into and out of downtown Honolulu.  It is also the only main freeway going into and out of Western Oahu (SA2 can comment more on that).  The push to get "Mass Transit" has included proposals for rail.  The government has gone so far as to set in motion an increase in our general excise tax to fund a "Mass Transit" program.  We still don't know what kind of system will be used - because no one has decided yet.  The local government needs to show the federal government that they're serious about it this time so we can get federal money too.  The last time I remember rail being mentioned was sometime in the 90's.  If I recall correctly, one of the big concerns against rail was how it would make "our island paradise" too urban.  The thought of a raised track blocking someone's access to their view of the ocean...  I don't know if we're ever going to get rail here (or whether we really need it).  It was a struggle just to get our most recent "interstate" road up (environmental and cultural concerns).  And even though it's doable, I couldn't imagine the effort it would take to get undersea tunnels up between the islands.  

When I was in Japan on two one-week periods last year for work, I was impressed by the train systems there.  We never had to wait long for the train to arrive to take us from Yokosuka to Shinagawa then transferring to head into Tokyo.  Very frequent.  Once in Tokyo though, you could see that tracks were everywhere and things got very ... compressed.  I don't see our state having anything but a token rail system.. there just isn't enough available land in the areas where you need to go to.  

Sure there is enough land in the contiguous 48, but if I don't fly, driving is much more fun.  It was fun even driving from Las Vegas to the Grand Canyon, which was the longest drive I've ever done behind the wheel.

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« Reply #62 on: March 13, 2006, 03:10:48 PM »
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@Gh0stFT, I haven't been on an ICE train yet, but do they all have displays in the seats like the one below or is that just 1st Class?


Its not 1st class only, but you have to pre-order (reserve) such a seat,
you just cant jump on the train and find this kind of seat empty ;)
from my expirience. But the ICE is ultra comfort compared to other standard
trains, absolute low level noise, suspension works so good you dont
feel you travel at all. If i travel with the ICE you mostly find me
at the board bistro drinking a Weizen Beer anyway :D

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« Reply #63 on: March 13, 2006, 03:19:29 PM »
Hmmm... dunkel Weißbier :)

I've only been on the RE trains, to Czech Republic and they're okay (but still better than UK trains because they have cool compartments).

I'm thinking of getting a Bahncard 25 or 50 so I can take advantage of travelling, cheaply, by ICE.
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« Reply #64 on: March 13, 2006, 05:09:35 PM »
How do you break it?
How long does it take to brake from 250 to 0 mph?

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« Reply #65 on: March 13, 2006, 05:53:35 PM »
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For many years now, the local government here has been trying to get "Mass Transit" going to alleviate the traffic problems.  We have one main freeway leading into and out of downtown Honolulu.  It is also the only main freeway going into and out of Western Oahu (SA2 can comment more on that).  The push to get "Mass Transit" has included proposals for rail.  The government has gone so far as to set in motion an increase in our general excise tax to fund a "Mass Transit" program.  We still don't know what kind of system will be used - because no one has decided yet.  The local government needs to show the federal government that they're serious about it this time so we can get federal money too.  The last time I remember rail being mentioned was sometime in the 90's.  If I recall correctly, one of the big concerns against rail was how it would make "our island paradise" too urban.  The thought of a raised track blocking someone's access to their view of the ocean...  I don't know if we're ever going to get rail here (or whether we really need it).  It was a struggle just to get our most recent "interstate" road up (environmental and cultural concerns).  And even though it's doable, I couldn't imagine the effort it would take to get undersea tunnels up between the islands.  

When I was in Japan on two one-week periods last year for work, I was impressed by the train systems there.  We never had to wait long for the train to arrive to take us from Yokosuka to Shinagawa then transferring to head into Tokyo.  Very frequent.  Once in Tokyo though, you could see that tracks were everywhere and things got very ... compressed.  I don't see our state having anything but a token rail system.. there just isn't enough available land in the areas where you need to go to.  

Sure there is enough land in the contiguous 48, but if I don't fly, driving is much more fun.  It was fun even driving from Las Vegas to the Grand Canyon, which was the longest drive I've ever done behind the wheel.


When I lived in Hawaii I recall "The Bus" was rated as the best bus system in the US.  I still prefered my moped and bicycle though.

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« Reply #66 on: March 13, 2006, 06:41:14 PM »
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How do you break it?
How long does it take to brake from 250 to 0 mph?


Uses disc brakes and air resistance braking (large air brakes that look like cat ears pop up from the roof).

The speed is double older shinkansens, but stopping distance is less. It takes less than 4km to stop.

The Japanese maglev train holds the world speed record: 581 kph (with passengers).
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« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2006, 01:02:57 AM »
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When I lived in Hawaii I recall "The Bus" was rated as the best bus system in the US.  I still prefered my moped and bicycle though.

eskimo


Yes, that's what is touted.  I don't have any experience with other bus systems, but I don't really have any complaints about ours.  They're fairly frequent on the main routes, have a couple types of express routes and go just about everywhere.  However, like you alluded to it would take more than an expanded system to get more people to give up their preferred means of transportation.

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« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2006, 02:11:24 AM »
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Rolex sayeth:
if people work in good faith to find compromises that benefit a common goal


We must not live in the same world, I have yet to see something like that happen.
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« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2006, 04:11:44 AM »
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