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Offline TequilaChaser

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2006, 12:04:36 AM »
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TC,

The Opteron 148 is a 3700+ SanDiego.  Only diff is that the Opteron is held to a higher standard off the assembly line.

Also, if you look at the differences between the ASUS A8R-MVP and the ASUS A8N-E were only talking interfaces.  Otherwise they are identical.

A8NR-MVP $95.99 :
3 PCI
2 PCI x16
1 PCI x1
*firewire


A8N-E $94.99 :
3 PCI
1 PCI x16
2 PCIx1
*no firewire


As for the A8N Delux, the board is SLI.  That means you will have to go with Nvidia when stepping up to dual GPU.   Not that there's anything wrong with that... :D


you picked me apart, scrap.

if he went with the crossfire MB< would he not have to use Ati crossfire enabled video cards? that is how I read it anyways..

is the opteron locked or unlocked for overclocking? if it is locked like some AMD processors, then the San Diego 3700+'s look to be better from a gamers view, maybe....

firewire, I always used a 9 or 10 dollar belkin firwire pci card ( my opinion it works better than onboard on the MB firwire jsut my opinion though ) but his crossfire edition MB he originally chose did have a firewire port and two crossfire ready X16 pci-E slots.....

if people decide to use the dual vid cards, most all I read opt for the SLI and nividia cards vs the Ati crossfire setup......

was my reason for saying go full tilt and use the A8n 32 Deluxe SLI board...... would have to go with nividia cards though, but I am not knocking the nivda vid cards by any means......either

as for the X800 coming with all 16 pipelines unlocked 1st I heard or seen of it, all reviews I have read at Tom's or thru newegg, or that other adtech place say pro versions are 12 pipes some or all 1300's are 12 pipes, the XT versions are 16 pipelines, they supposedly stopped after the 800/or 700 series on giving the user the option of unlocking the extra pipelines......... ( the pipeline count is supposedly based on the pro/Gto/XT version of the card you picking from what I have read ie Tom's/Ati website/ and post by owners of particular cards ) there are some GTO's and XTs that offer dual DVI and then some that offer DVI and analog etc....

our 850Pro is 12 pipelines and wil not unlock, our 850XT is 16 pipelines out of the box.... but both cards are overclockable.......

I agree, got with premium grade memory, you will not regret it......

I think Karaya has chosen a decent pc build, is his money, we all just giving him our opinions.....he is has the burden deciding if he chose the right stuff for what he is wanting to gain...

<----often wonders how much time all of us waste just sitting reading up on stuff and asking questions, man do we miss alot of fishing, golfing, swimming, woman chasing, time spent outdoors........list goes on, not forgetting all our honey do list we keep putting off, Honey, I just got to find out about this product, if it is worth buying, just a few more minutes please ( 2 hours later ) honey, I found an interesting article, I need to read this and I promise, I will wash your car and change your oil before dark.....oops honey, I forgot to get ya oil, I will play online with the guys in AH tonight, and make sure I fix ya car 1st thing Monday morning :D )

heck, I am just a dweeb, I know from what I have built, and from advice from a few here, mentioned 1 of them already, that I have yet to have any problems.....and I thank this forum and Whels for being part of that!!
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2006, 07:20:03 AM »
Sorry TC.  Just playin a little point-counterpoint :p .  I sitll agree w/ you on the X850 definately a better bang for the buck.  As for the mo-bo, I would reccomend the A8N-E simply b/c it is what I am using and I have had no complaints (but wouldn't discourage the Crossfire option).

Offline Casper1

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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2006, 03:17:54 PM »
Try this option masher - save some bucks:

http://shop.ati.com/product.asp?sku=2707477

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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2006, 03:40:01 PM »
Your setup sounds fine, buy it :).

If your playing ah2 the 1G RAM might be faster, when you use apps that eat up the memory 2G is faster... so according to what you wrote i would probably get 1GB.

On PC buying these days there is always a reason to wait, but this time i would say waiting only makes sense if you by january 2007, since before that it will probably be hard to get working equipment with AMD AM2 board, which is the only reason i currently would want to wait for.

While ASUS was verry good for motherboards it has lost its advantage now i think, but i currently know of no manufacturer whose motherboards are notable better than others. Think MSI,ASUS,DFI,Gigabyte,AOpen are all pretty good, but i have no definite winner currently. Does anyone know a definite quality motherboard manufacturer?

ciao schutt

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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2006, 06:58:36 PM »
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Revised:

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego
ASUS A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB
SAPPHIRE 100106SR-RD Radeon X850XT
Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500W
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5
Seagate Barracuda 7200 SATA
SAMSUNG Black DVD Burner

Better?

Karaya


Me and you are headed down the same path.

AMD athlon 64 3700 SD
ABIT KN8 mobo
OCZ CAS 2 pc3500 RAM
aspire 520w PSU
Seagate baracuda 7200
but........I forked out the extra dough for the AATI radeon x1800xl aiw, just to try to avoid the 'next year videao card upgrade' that ends up costing more in the l;ong run.  Im going to complete the assembly and try to fire it up tomorrow.