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Staga · « **on:** August 08, 2001, 11:54:00 PM »

Could you translate some info from This site.

Guy I know owns old M-21 and I would like to know more about this one

[ 08-08-2001: Message edited by: Staga ]

miko2d · « **Reply #1 on:** August 09, 2001, 10:01:00 AM »

It is a car built by a Moskow company Autoluck. So far it is only one instance.

It is inspired by the venerable 60s Volga 21. This one is called Volga V12 Coupe.

It has 380hp V12 and most of the internals are parts from BMW 850 CSi.
6 speed transmission, safety and stability features, power-everything...

A team of high-class professionals worked 17 months 10-12 hours a day to build that thingy which they calculate to be worth $400000 in labor cost alone. Add BMW 850 CSi and old Volga sacrificed, it's sale price should be substantial.

Hope that helps.

miko

Boroda · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2001, 11:04:00 AM »

Africa from Russian WB team repaired an old 1958 GAZ-M21 (the one that has a deer on a cowl), and sold it for $12K the next day he placed an ad in a newspaper.

21 is a real "tank". The results o the collision with Lada usually are scratched bumper of a 21, and an absolutely FUBAR Lada.

I read that this car was 100% Soviet design, but once I saw a 1953 Ford Anniversary parked in the street. It looks almost exactly like a 21, especially from the front.

Fatty · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2001, 11:06:00 AM »

It does have a bit of a detroit look to it, still looks sweet regardless.

Staga · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2001, 06:42:00 PM »

Thanks !

In fifties- early sixties M21 and Popeda were often used as a taxi in Finland and some companies also bought Tshaikas and one or two big Zil limousines.

M-21 was known as "Moose-Head" Volga here btw

Boroda · « **Reply #5 on:** August 09, 2001, 08:36:00 PM »

Staga, what really surprises me is that it's another evidence that "vintage" Soviet cars were considered reliable enough in many countries (another one that I am 100% sure was Greece) to become taxies!

In early 70-s this experience went down the drain with licensed "Ladas", actualy FIAT-124 (1967 design), that are still produced here, and even licensed to Latin America. AFAIK they are the cheapest new cars availible in Western market, since Yugo is gone forever. The samething happened to original Soviet computers, when in 1970 the brilliant BESM series were abandoned in favour of ES EVM, cloned IBM-360s.

The real dream is to get one of the few 4WD Volgas produced back in the 60-s...

Someone told me that modern Volvo diesel engines perfectly fit into a GAZ-M21 cowl. Absolutely no changes required.

BTW, I have heard that FAF technicians still remember good old MiG-21bis "balalaika" as very reliable and maintenance-friendly aircrafts...

Staga · « **Reply #6 on:** August 09, 2001, 09:28:00 PM »

In '70s few new model Volgas were sold in Finland and some of them got British Perkins diesel. I'm not sure if those were factory-built or were engines swapped afterwards.

Some taxi-drivers who were using Popedas as their car did change carburetor to the one used in Chevrolets in fifties. I read the fuel consumption dropped couple liters per 100km and car also accelerated better. Some taxies were also using Petrol/Benzin in 50/50% but needed to use two gaskets between cyl.head and block to lower compression-ratio.

pimpjoe · « **Reply #7 on:** August 13, 2001, 08:36:00 PM »

boy it that was a taxi i bet it didnt take long to go anywhere

. it sounds like my kind of ride. probably cost a fortune for the cab fair though

Staga · « **Reply #8 on:** August 13, 2001, 09:06:00 PM »

Heh They really customized that M21