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Offline Maverick

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« Reply #75 on: May 30, 2006, 08:58:31 AM »
So far all I've seen in uv's posts here are a plea to feel sorry for the predator and blame the behavior on a "disease or sickness". I don't buy it. Life is a series of choices every day. Those that commit those types of crimes do so because they made a choice. I refuse to feel sorry for them. My sympathy is reserved for those they prey on, they did nothing to deserve having their childhood ripped away from them just to satisfy some bipedal animal's jollies.

Society deserves to be protected from them and putting them into a hospital simply does not cut it IMO.
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« Reply #76 on: May 30, 2006, 09:11:56 AM »
umpwavxztw....

I think that most of us are perfectly capable of understanding the difference between a 14 year old being seduced by an adult and the abduction and molestation of a prepuberecent..


In the latter case.... studies show that said molester will molest about 150 children in his lifetime and bring untold missery onto the world.   He is not curable by any means.... chemical or otherwise.   You can not guarentee that he will take the drugs.   It is pretty common knowledge that there are drugs to counteract the chemical neutering also.

My position remains that a real child molester can't be cured... he will molest again and if you kill him you will save 100's of children from a destroyed life.

I do hope that you agree that the damage caused to the molested child is irrepairable and huge.

I agree with you that they are sick.   It is a sickness that we have no cure for tho and it is a sickness (like sociopathy) that has a 100% chance of destroying lives it touches.

Where we differ is that you believe that a tortured life if better than dead.  By your logic we would let a rabid dog die in a cage.

face it... some people are evil...  all evil people are probably just broken beyond repair but.... we can't have them out amungst us.   The only way to make sure that never happens again when we catch them is to put them out of their missery before they destroy even more lives.

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« Reply #77 on: May 30, 2006, 12:32:04 PM »
His BBS moniker is "Madman".

And yes, it appears he has trouble differentiating between seduction of a minor, AKA statutory rape, and actual rape, by force, violence, or threat thereof. There's no excuse for either, and both are wrong, but they are not equal, nor are they equally wrong.

In all honesty, the truth is that it takes VERY little seduction to get a teenage male to jump all over ANY attractive female, provided she isn't related to him. That does not make it okay, but to say it is the same as other sexual offenses is to deny a lot of things only a fool would deny. It is different even than a male teacher seducing a teenage female student. To deny the difference between the male and female of the species is foolish at best. And only a fool would see anything truly similar between the two examples immediately above and any of the actual abduction/rape cases committed against actual children, or ANY forcible rape of any kind.
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« Reply #78 on: May 30, 2006, 01:12:49 PM »
Late on the reply, Wolf  (partying all weekend)...but,

Amen, buddy...you know how it's done around here.

We've got one of those animals here in town, and he's been under no illusions about how life is going to work;  as long as he's never seen by the light of day, noone'll hassle him.  However, be seen and there will be a rash of 'tragic accidents'.

Funny how that works...or so I'm told.

To his credit (as much as it pains me to say it), he got the message day one, and keeps properly locked up when the neighborhood kids are awake.  And has for the last ten years.


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« Reply #79 on: May 30, 2006, 01:14:16 PM »
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Originally posted by Maverick
So far all I've seen in uv's posts here are a plea to feel sorry for the predator and blame the behavior on a "disease or sickness". I don't buy it. Life is a series of choices every day. Those that commit those types of crimes do so because they made a choice. I refuse to feel sorry for them. My sympathy is reserved for those they prey on, they did nothing to deserve having their childhood ripped away from them just to satisfy some bipedal animal's jollies.

Society deserves to be protected from them and putting them into a hospital simply does not cut it IMO.




no choice, no matter how they try, eventually they have to fall. entire problem with pedo preists is they try to escape themselves by trying to use religion as a control. and why people charged with child porn possesion offences should be minimum  chemical castration, though i'd prefer a more permanent solution.

"And yes, it appears he has trouble differentiating between seduction of a minor, AKA statutory rape, and actual rape, by force, violence, or threat thereof. There's no excuse for either, and both are wrong, but they are not equal, nor are they equally wrong."

in most of the cases i cant see a real difference myself, just in one the monster has had enough of a concience instilled in him by upbringing to try and make it "lesser"

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« Reply #80 on: May 30, 2006, 02:56:46 PM »
Well, I can give you an example of statutory rape that's way off of fair.

 Boy I worked with, 18 just turned (2 or 3 months) he's at a party, girl 16 (just shy of 17 by a couple of months) who has had a crush on him approaches, flirts they end up screwing.

 Fast forward a couple months & her parents find out. The end result? He's in front of a judge for statutory rape & she's begging her parents & the judge & the prosecutor to let him go, telling them it was all her idea, but he is sentenced to time served & suspended sentence. Now he's a sex offender & has a criminal record & spent three weeks in jail. This kid was not jail material if you know what I mean, too frail.

 This girl & him ended up married a couple years later.

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« Reply #81 on: May 30, 2006, 03:12:54 PM »
Yep.  A good friend of mine nearly had his life ruined the same way.  He was 24 or 25 at the time, at a party where supposedly everyone was invited and all in the same age range.  Beer was flowing freely, as well as a little pot and some whiskey.  Some of the people came in groups so not everyone knew everyone else directly.  

This was a college town, parties were pretty common.  If you saw one going on, and acted like you knew someone, you could walk right in and start drinking, no one would ever realize you were crashing.  

Somehow this 16 year old girl gets in there, looks nothing like 16.  Even sober I'd have never believed she was 16, looking at her later.  She starts dancing with this friend of mine, before you know it they are in the back room.  Nothing was said about age, he just assumed she was old enough if she was at the party.  She certainly had no hesitation about participating in any of the "activities".  Girl gets home later that night, sobers up a little, realizes no one used any protection and she starts to panic.  Still confused by whatever was in her system and her fear of the unknown, she goes crying to her parents and says she was raped at a party.

My buddy gets arrested.  He's looking at a lifetime of being labelled, losing his guns, probably losing custody of his daughter, spending time in jail ........

Finally the girl comes clean and admits she wasnt raped.  Her parents are upset and drop the charges, but the state decides to charge him anyway with statutory rape.  6 months later, after all the worrying and headaches, the judge throws the case out and tells the State's Attorney where he can stick that load of crap.  So lucky he didnt get a different judge, got one with some sense.  

No, its not the same thing.

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