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Offline porkfrog

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« on: June 27, 2006, 04:02:26 PM »
Greetings. I've been playing for almost 3 months now. I've gotten better but on a scale of 1-10, I'd rate myself a 4 maybe 5. I mainly only focus on dogfighting, and would give anything to become a better pilot. Ive broken the pilots I find in-game into 4 distinct groups.

A. Noobs (Ain't nothing wrong with that, we were all there once)
B. Those who can shoot the Noobs down, but thats about it.
C. The Majority
D. The Elite.

Group C consitutes the largest number of players. They are those who can fly/fight/land/hold their own, in your typical 1 v 1 engagement. I think I fall in between B and C. If someone could explain some of the following terms to me, it might help me become a little better.

Break Turn

Flat Scissors

Lag Roll

Flare

The hardest part about getting better is that when I have the time to sit and read and review all the films etc, I would much rather be playing. So I try to learn a little bit when I can and hopefully a year from now I might actually be decent.


Thanks in advance,


JoLLY
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Offline Spatula

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 05:23:40 PM »
Hi Porkfrog. I dont want to discourage you, but the more you think you improve, the more you realise you can - and thats the absolute truth, no matter how good you get or think you get. Its a perpetual learning curve that is very steep to start with, and always heads upwards it just gets less steep as you get years of experience. Seriously, ive been playing Warbirds II, Aces High 1, Aces High 2 MCFS 2 etc etc for over 6 years now, and im still learning new stuff almost everytime i go up.

Any who, answers to your questions:
1. Break-turn. This is easy, its a defensive moderate turn (normally done flat) to spoil the guns solution of an attacking a/c who is much faster than you. Timing is key. Can be done in any direction. Best to avoid any extremely hard turns or prolonged turns to preserve energy. Do just enough to spoil the guns solution so you dont die.

2. Flat-Scissors. Hmmm a bit harder to describe, buts its pretty much like a series of alternating break-turns in a weave-like pattern. Its a defensive manuever again, but this time the goal is two-fold. Firstly to spoil the guns solution (like the break turn), and secondly and most importantly, its to encourage the eneny to overshoot you so you can reverse the situation (eg you on their 6 instead of other way round). So imagine a bogie bouncing you from the rear quarter and they have significantly more speed than you (important), so you break right when they D1.0, you keep watching out the back as you break and you notice bogey is attempting to follow, then you immediately reverse your break turn and left break turn in response, keep watching, bogie tries to follow again, you reverse again... etc.. The key is the bogie is significantly faster than you and they cant turn as tight as you and thus when they commit to trying to turn with you, they very quickly get all 'out of phase' with you and will overshoot you. Then your on his 6 :D Another key to sucess is timing: you must try encourage the bogie to get out-of-phase with you. Turn, wait for a reaction, then counter turn, repeat :) Also use a bit of rudder to help the rolling, as thats the weak point of the move.

3. Lag Roll. Simple. This is an offensive 'displacement move'. Imaging your the attacker as in above, and you notice the bogie your attacking is trying to scissor you or break turn etc, you would do a lag roll to stay behind the bogey  eg not overshoot him and get them on your 6. Simply put its just a barrell roll. So as you attack and you dont think you can stay with the bogey, just nose up, do a barrell roll (or part of one) to slow your forward vector speed (not your actual speed) to avoid overshooting. Barrell roll is like you are travelling around a spring coil. A coil is just a long piece of wire but when coiled up its very short in measured end-to-end of the spring length, but the length of the wire is still the same. Same principle.

4. Flare? sounds like popping your flaps as your landing? not sure what you mean here.
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Offline Birddogg

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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2006, 05:37:58 PM »
Flare... keeping plane leveled while its gently losing altitude. Planes get into flare when landing..I think thats what flare is.

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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2006, 07:27:51 PM »
awesome. thanks so much. now i can babble some ACM speak with the rest of ya and not look like such a nooB =)

"Yeah, he tried to bnZ me, but I made a break turn scissors lag roll negative G pushover thingamabob with a reverse aileron rudder kick dohicky for a sweet reverse Gun solution."

YEAH!


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Offline Goomba

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2006, 08:24:58 AM »
To flare the aircraft is to rotate the nose high and chop throttle on final approach, just as you're over the runway and ready to touch down.

Its that moment of bleeding off the last remaining bit of excess speed while over the tarmac, and causing the aircraft to settle down onto it's gear.

Imagine you're watching a goose land on a lake.  The approach is the part where the bird is still head down and gliding in, making minor corrections.  The flare is that last moment as the bird pulls it's head up, drops it's feet and backpedals with it's wings to peel off speed and plop down.


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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2006, 01:36:43 AM »
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Originally posted by porkfrog
awesome. thanks so much. now i can babble some ACM speak with the rest of ya and not look like such a nooB =)

"Yeah, he tried to bnZ me, but I made a break turn scissors lag roll negative G pushover thingamabob with a reverse aileron rudder kick dohicky for a sweet reverse Gun solution."

YEAH!


-Jolly


     I have seen u do this move Jolly, I even have it on film to prove it.:aok
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2006, 10:07:58 AM »
if you have and i did, it was completely by accident i assure you =)




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