Author Topic: In the meantime... (Read 1038 times)

storch · « **Reply #15 on:** July 03, 2006, 08:15:42 AM »

actually the herd seems to perceive the axis rides as the more favorable ones now so most of JG54 "grunherz has been obligated to play in allied rides. I spent the night in either the F4F, P38G (which I haven't quite gotten the hang of) or the mossie which flies remarkably like my beloved 110 but with far better guns. The F4F-4 is very competetive the problem with it is it's only available from CVs (I'll cover that problem later in this post) the mossie is an absolute beast. the only defense against the mossie is for the axis players to gang the tar out of it or do what platan0 does, namely gang with altitude. I don't see the need for the seafire but if you added it, it shouldn't be a set disrupter provided you added the 109G2. the 109F/spitV is a great match up. the 109G2/seafire will be as well. now to what I perceive to be a problem. is there any way to make the carriers uncapturable? there is a small squad that comes on specifically to vultch and capture stuff. Due to their "efforts" by around 2200 last night the allieds were left with just one carrier, effectively removing a fun fighter from the setup, namely the F4F-4. the squad in question will not play nicely with others which is fine but if the staff would see it's way clear to enable the F4F-4 at the bases as well then they could go on happily with their undefended captures and not really disrupt the game much, until they "win the war"

TexMurphy · « **Reply #16 on:** July 03, 2006, 10:58:54 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
actually the herd seems to perceive the axis rides as the more favorable ones now so most of JG54 "grunherz has been obligated to play in allied rides. I spent the night in either the F4F, P38G (which I haven't quite gotten the hang of) or the mossie which flies remarkably like my beloved 110 but with far better guns.

The F4F-4 is very competetive the problem with it is it's only available from CVs (I'll cover that problem later in this post) the mossie is an absolute beast. the only defense against the mossie is for the axis players to gang the tar out of it or do what platan0 does, namely gang with altitude.

I don't see the need for the seafire but if you added it, it shouldn't be a set disrupter provided you added the 109G2. the 109F/spitV is a great match up. the 109G2/seafire will be as well.

now to what I perceive to be a problem. is there any way to make the carriers uncapturable? there is a small squad that comes on specifically to vultch and capture stuff. Due to their "efforts" by around 2200 last night the allieds were left with just one carrier, effectively removing a fun fighter from the setup, namely the F4F-4.

the squad in question will not play nicely with others which is fine but if the staff would see it's way clear to enable the F4F-4 at the bases as well then they could go on happily with their undefended captures and not really disrupt the game much, until they "win the war"

storch..

I know your used to oneliners.. but when you actually have something to say which is worth listening to.. please use paragraphs...

Kev367th · « **Reply #17 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:23:45 AM »

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Originally posted by storch
actually the herd seems to perceive the axis rides as the more favorable ones now so most of JG54 "grunherz has been obligated to play in allied rides. I spent the night in either the F4F, P38G (which I haven't quite gotten the hang of) or the mossie which flies remarkably like my beloved 110 but with far better guns. The F4F-4 is very competetive the problem with it is it's only available from CVs (I'll cover that problem later in this post) the mossie is an absolute beast. the only defense against the mossie is for the axis players to gang the tar out of it or do what platan0 does, namely gang with altitude. I don't see the need for the seafire but if you added it, it shouldn't be a set disrupter provided you added the 109G2. the 109F/spitV is a great match up. the 109G2/seafire will be as well. now to what I perceive to be a problem. is there any way to make the carriers uncapturable? there is a small squad that comes on specifically to vultch and capture stuff. Due to their "efforts" by around 2200 last night the allieds were left with just one carrier, effectively removing a fun fighter from the setup, namely the F4F-4. the squad in question will not play nicely with others which is fine but if the staff would see it's way clear to enable the F4F-4 at the bases as well then they could go on happily with their undefended captures and not really disrupt the game much, until they "win the war"

Shows a slight lack of understanding of the current Seafire -

Only big difference between it and the Vb is the unversal wing, i.e. 120 RPG instead of only 60 RPG in the Vb.
They use the same motor, same boost, with the IIc being slightly heavier.
So how suddenly it would be a good matchup for a G2 is beyond me, considering it's basically a Vb + extra ammo.

Still wondering why there's no F IX, I have provided three units who had them in Tunisia during the Spring 43 period, and there were other units, just posted three off the top of my head.

I think we can all agree the LW and RAF planesets as they stand are actually turning out to be quite poor for historical matchups -
The RAF is definately badly missing the late Vc which would have been the one used in this setup along with the IX.

Bronk · « **Reply #18 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:32:10 AM »

Ok lemme get this straight . We are using 190 A5s as subs for earlier 190s.
But we cant use the Mk IX that was actually there?

We complain about holes in the plane set ... Yet don't use the ones that should be.

Gee can't understand why HT isn't all fired up to fill the holes.

Bronk

Shifty · « **Reply #19 on:** July 03, 2006, 12:19:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Ok lemme get this straight . We are using 190 A5s as subs for earlier 190s.
But we cant use the Mk IX that was actually there?

Bronk

Take heart Bronk. After some debate you will be allowed to fly the 1942 model Seafire from one of the CV's.

TexMurphy · « **Reply #20 on:** July 03, 2006, 12:57:55 PM »

Its interesting that the debate is on what spitfire is used and how historical it´s been proven over and over again that we cant really make historical matchups.

The biggest issue I have with this setup is that 190s vs Spits sucks bigtime. Its shown each time we do the BoB during the few days when its pure 190 vs Spit matchup. Horribly booring fights.

I dont know if the 38G is enough to remove the factor of 190s running from turning spits but if not we really need to come up with something. Possibly adding D11 jug.

Fun and ballance is more important then historical accuracy when we know we can never acommplish historical accuracy.

Tex

storch · « **Reply #21 on:** July 03, 2006, 04:01:59 PM »

What Tex said, or adding the PJ. the G in the hands of a good 38 driver is a handful. even I am able to make some fairly good kills in it. I don't have a problem with the spit9 the 109s are now where they should have always been. the 109G2 has enough poop for the spit9. that fight would be determined by play skill not HTC generated woobiedom. give them the 9. hell give them the 14 and 16 they still won't show up to play. they just like to grieve about stuff.

Lye-El · « **Reply #22 on:** July 03, 2006, 06:53:35 PM »

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Originally posted by storch
hell give them the 14 and 16 they still won't show up to play. they just like to grieve about stuff.

Hmmm.....Maybe that should be tried for a couple of weeks....just to see.

storch · « **Reply #23 on:** July 03, 2006, 07:32:45 PM »

I'm all for it. why don't one of you guys come up with the setup and pitch it to the staff?

Kongkyuk · « **Reply #24 on:** July 04, 2006, 08:54:59 AM »

Well Storch, I hope u give up the G because once u figure it out (look out).
She is a mean bird, and (I feel) a good match for the 190a5.

The 109 can eat up the G if you loose your alt. Actually, I used to hate the 109 but after forcing myself to fly it, I've found she rules this arena. I luv how it floats and rockets to the moon on command. Just wish she had more ammo

storch · « **Reply #25 on:** July 04, 2006, 09:23:37 AM »

I'm going to learn that bird because it has pretty good whacking power. I was making point and shoot kills with the .50s only out to 1k!!!! I finally figured out you don't need to lead the target very much

Kongkyuk · « **Reply #26 on:** July 04, 2006, 09:24:45 AM »

Damn,, get back in the 110 now!!!!!!!!!