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Offline kamilyun

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« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2006, 02:35:43 AM »
Who here was a Boy Scout?  (I'm raising my hand...)

Generally I nice, conservative bunch, right?

I consider myself conservative, but not necessarily Republican because here is my major sticking point with this party:  The environment.

See in the Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts I remember distinctly the mantra when camping:

"Take only pictures; leave only footprints"

I like to practice this as much as possible in the rest of my life on this planet.  Remember this is not MY planet or OUR planet.  It belongs to our children and grand-children, too.  I want to give them the best planet possible.

When in doubt, I'd err on the side of conservation and caution.  But in a land where every man, woman and child is responsible for $28,000 of national debt (more or less), I hardly think that conservation and frugality are core values...

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« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2006, 06:38:28 AM »
See Rule #7
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« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2006, 01:07:21 PM »
All this talk of Climate change and glaciers melting got me worried, so I decided to do an experiment of my own to settle the matter once and for all.


Before

After

I hope all you skeptics will finally be persuaded by this irrefutable evidence.

As you can see, in a matter of only minutes, all the ice cubes have melted. Clear evidence that global warming effect is indeed underway, and that we need to implement the Kyoto protocols as soon as possible. If you don't understand the seriousness of what is going on, just consider that had this been say, an expensive single malt Scotch instead of merely a cup of water, my drink would have become overly diluted and unsatisfying in a matter of only a few minutes. When one multiplies the psychological impact of that kind of event by the total number of Scotch on the rocks served daily in the USA alone, its easy to see that we are headed for a crisis that could cause a worldwide depression. And its not just adults who are impacted, think of how quickly the Slush in ICEES and SLURPEES must be melting, the hapiness of our CHILDREN is at stake here people. Surely you can see why then we must assume that we are in complete control of the ecology of our planet and its destiny and act now to hand control of the global economy over to "third world and developing nations" like China who are not constrained by the Protocols.

Oh, and if you value the frostiness of your beer mug then you need stop driving to work. Start walking the night before.
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« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2006, 01:16:36 PM »
That is some damned fine research Seagoon (pardon el language).

Want to join me on a trip with Greenpeace on the Rainbow Warrior? You could bless the life jackets. :aok


Any EOD experts wanna join us? I bet it will be a blast.

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« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2006, 01:50:21 PM »
oh really seagoon, where is your documentation, for all we know the photos were taken months apart. we need our resident photo experts to examine the photos for change in lighting, camera angle, lens, exposure, etc.

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« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2006, 02:25:44 PM »
And john9, dunt forget about the propane torch which was edited out of the pics.

EDIT:  To the topic.  He is a politician and someone believes him?  LOL!!!
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« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2006, 02:38:09 PM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I see your $4.5 million and raise you:



Connect the dots indeed  :rolleyes:

Unless I'm mistaken, I thought the thread was about the Senator Inhofe and the speech he made? I had no idea we would discuss the whole think tank thing.
I belive my post mentioned Inhofe ny name and how much cash he had recieved from oil and that's why he said what he said.
If you wish to connect dots on the wider issue, then I can help you with that.
But I'd be intrigued if you could find another Senator who has received more cash from the "Tree huggers" than Inhofe has received from big business.
Do you not agree that Inhofe gets cash from Oil to make certain speeches and to try and debunk certain issues?
Do you know that when this guy tried to ram the clean air act through ( at the behest of Chevron and Exonn) he tried to supena the financial information of all dissenters? not find this a bit odd?
This is not opinion, but fact
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« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2006, 03:01:07 PM »
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But I'd be intrigued if you could find another Senator who has received more cash from the "Tree huggers" than Inhofe has received from big business.

Al Gore? :aok  just guessing (and yes he was a senator first)

when I have more time   http://www.opensecrets.org/
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« Reply #53 on: September 28, 2006, 04:13:35 PM »
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
The fact remains that political campaign funding by environmental groups to promote climate and environmental alarmism dwarfs spending by the fossil fuel industry by a three-to-one ratio. Environmental special interests, through their 527s, spent over $19 million compared to the $7 million that Oil and Gas spent through PACs in the 2004 election cycle.


According to OpenSecrets.org, Oil & Gas Industries ran to $25,652,689 in 2004 with individual contributions. $7,236,748 is just PACs.

Add in the Electric Utilities $15,740,833 ($11,415,013 PACs) to that total -- those guys have a vested interest in disproving global warming too. Coal mining's $2,340,118 ($498,850 PACs) might be germaine too.

Environmental PACs donated $87,589 (add that to the $19,019,166).

So it looks more like $43,579,490 vs $19,106,755.
If you just want to count PACs $19,150,611 vs $19,106,755

And technically the environmental 527s only spent $15,479,475 of the $19,019,166 they received.

Then there's the lobbying cash -- in 2004
Enviromental groups spent $7,837,517
Electric Utilities spent $89,141,466
Oil & Gas spent $50,787,527

$7,837,517 for the greens vs $139,928,993 for the "no global warming" guys
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« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2006, 04:18:46 PM »
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Originally posted by Pongo
Yes grapes grew in England when the Romans conquored it.  It was warmer then and then for several hundred years it got way colder.  We are talking hundreds of years. Not dozens.


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The mean global surface temperature has increased by about 0.3 to 0.6C since the late 19th century and by about 0.2 to 0.3C over the last 40 years, which is the period with most reliable data.


Were still not talking dozens to get a chianti from Leeds.
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« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2006, 09:50:48 AM »
Looks like the media didn't like being called biased by the good Senator.  Here is Inhofe's reply to the MSM's response...

http://www.epw.senate.gov/speechitem.cfm?party=rep&id=264027
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« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2006, 11:42:34 AM »
One main point that the "man is the devil" advocates are missing here is that....

If we are affecting the earth so much with what we are doing.... if we can change the natural cycles of warming and cooling so much.....

we better be very careful about any "cure" for global warming...  By their logic we have probly averted the ice age that the "scientists" predicted in the 70's by our slovenly and wasteful ways...

If we all drove a prius and gave our money to world socialism and wore hairshirts as attonement....

We might easily trigger a global ice age.

Perhaps we are the balance!   without us.... the earth would have been covered in ice like "Time" and all the "scientists" predicted in the 70's and any change needs to be carefully thought out....

It might be that we need to punch holes in all the air conditioning condensers and go back to r34 refrigerant...  Might be that we need to remove all the catalytic converters on our cars and find some really dirty coal to power our power plants...

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