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Re: 48 percent of Americans never spend a summer vacation
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2007, 08:10:14 PM »
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According to a recent study. US folks on this board, how is your situation?

I guess unions are good for something.. :rolleyes:
48% never spend a "summer vacation" is what the study says?  Not sure I understand.

I never spend a summer vacation.  I generally use all my vacation in the winter.

So that puts me into the 48%?
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« Reply #31 on: July 08, 2007, 10:03:46 PM »
I haven't taken a vacation in over 3 years now. I can't say that I miss it.
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« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2007, 10:34:20 PM »
Like posted above, the problem iwth America is illegal immigrants and outsourcing. There aren't any steel factories, small farms, auto factories, textile mills, or large working factories hardly left in America. Most of the people here now consider work a 12 hours shift sitting at a desk. That isn't work, work is 14, 16, sometimes even 24 hours actually doing something, plowing, planting, hard labour things. I have often been up three days at a time, plowing during the day, fixing the tractor at night, fixing the car, actually working. When me papaw was younger, he started working at 9, and never stopped. Still hasn't. He used to work his auto shop, fixing engines, water pumps, fuel pumps, carburators, crank shafts, transmissions (automatic and manual), starters, altenators, distributors, welding up engine blocks, welding exhaust pipes back together, actually working. He was strong then, he could pick up a fully dressed engine off a table, carry it over and set it in a pick up bed, and he could also pick them up out of cars and carry them to the table. He often took apart an engine, fixed it, and put it back together twice a day. That is work. Quality work, too. Many of the engines he built won races. The auto "mechanics" today just take a piece off and put a new piece on and throw the old away. Me papaw actually fixed the pieces instead of buying new ones. We need to bring back actual work, we need to change this country back into the great country it once was.

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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2007, 02:38:36 AM »
What was it Mr. Spock said on Star Trek, he found his meditation to be more relaxing and useful than our human vacations.  


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« Reply #34 on: July 09, 2007, 02:52:03 AM »
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What was the final outcome about the afore-mentioned fight to allow newer/younger workers to be fired? And does Sarkozy support it?


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lol how is it the french always get lambasted on this BBS?


Ask the moderation, not me.

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Wasn't really my intent, but France IS Europe after all, and thus its model of labor/economics is the most representative. (They're SOOoo touchy:confused: )


It's not representative of the whole EU as I speak we have to invaded Europe :)

@McFarland do you really think our farmer work less than you ?
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« Reply #35 on: July 09, 2007, 03:51:30 AM »
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Like posted above, the problem iwth America is illegal immigrants and outsourcing. There aren't any steel factories, small farms, auto factories, textile mills, or large working factories hardly left in America. Most of the people here now consider work a 12 hours shift sitting at a desk. That isn't work, work is 14, 16, sometimes even 24 hours actually doing something, plowing, planting, hard labour things. I have often been up three days at a time, plowing during the day, fixing the tractor at night, fixing the car, actually working. When me papaw was younger, he started working at 9, and never stopped. Still hasn't. He used to work his auto shop, fixing engines, water pumps, fuel pumps, carburators, crank shafts, transmissions (automatic and manual), starters, altenators, distributors, welding up engine blocks, welding exhaust pipes back together, actually working. He was strong then, he could pick up a fully dressed engine off a table, carry it over and set it in a pick up bed, and he could also pick them up out of cars and carry them to the table. He often took apart an engine, fixed it, and put it back together twice a day. That is work. Quality work, too. Many of the engines he built won races. The auto "mechanics" today just take a piece off and put a new piece on and throw the old away. Me papaw actually fixed the pieces instead of buying new ones. We need to bring back actual work, we need to change this country back into the great country it once was.


     I can't decide which is funnier...your Bible weather forecasting, or this
dribble about what constitutes work. :D
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« Reply #36 on: July 09, 2007, 04:22:35 AM »
So, you think that isn't work? You think setting at a desk for 12 hours is work? What is this world coming to? Laziness. I have done work. I have done more work than some 40 year olds. And if you think sitting at a desk 12 hours a day hitting buttons is work, then I've done more work in a month than most do in their lives.

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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2007, 04:44:30 AM »
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I can't decide which is funnier...your Bible weather forecasting, or this
dribble about what constitutes work. :D


If you decide both are funny, that would that be a penalty - double dribble. Ahar... :)  The word is "drivel."

I'm curious about the phrasing "summer" vacations in the topic. Is that just MrRiplEy[H]'s phrasing, since it seems most of Europe is closed during August, or is that from the article he's using?

And what's this stuff about needing to break down the segments to determine the whole of productivity? It's either per person or per hour, and the whole is based on all non-farm segments of labor. It's not hard at all, it's an elementary economics calculation.

And what's this stuff by lazysailor about the construction industry being studied by the researcher? What study? What researcher? Am I missing something here, or are you guys talking in code?

And what's this stuff about European companies not making profits? Okay, so let me see if i have this straight:

European workers produce more per hour, have more time off, and their companies make a profit - that's bad.

American workers produce less per hour, have less time off, and their companies make a profit - that's good.

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Re: Re: 48 percent of Americans never spend a summer vacation
« Reply #38 on: July 09, 2007, 10:45:18 AM »
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48% never spend a "summer vacation" is what the study says?  Not sure I understand.

I never spend a summer vacation.  I generally use all my vacation in the winter.

So that puts me into the 48%?


No it means that I believe the US is the only country in the western world that doesn't have nation wide standards on holidays. On average finns spend 5 weeks per year on paid holiday + another good 12 days of national holidays. Some special groups like teachers get even 2 month summer vacations and 1 week winter vacations.

I take longer than normal vacations too, but that's because I'm running the business and can make my own rules. Just as many Americans can for sure.
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« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2007, 03:00:59 PM »
In the U.S. we don't need any government telling us how much or when to take vacations.

Any person (who is not a union employee) is free to negotiate with prospective employers how much vacation they get as part of their compensation. Sorry union folks, most of you don't have this freedom.

Highly valued employees will be able to negotiate more vacation time (if that's what they desire) better than lower valued employees - just like with pay.

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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2007, 03:12:45 PM »
my name is john and for years i was a workaholic, what is a "vacation"?

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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2007, 05:43:09 PM »
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In the U.S. we don't need any government telling us how much or when to take vacations.

Any person (who is not a union employee) is free to negotiate with prospective employers how much vacation they get as part of their compensation. Sorry union folks, most of you don't have this freedom.

Highly valued employees will be able to negotiate more vacation time (if that's what they desire) better than lower valued employees - just like with pay.

Let freedom ring.


What you mean in reality is that people need to have 2 or 3 jobs without vacation and still be underpaid.

Each to its own I guess.. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2007, 05:45:53 PM »
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So, you think that isn't work? You think setting at a desk for 12 hours is work? What is this world coming to? Laziness. I have done work. I have done more work than some 40 year olds. And if you think sitting at a desk 12 hours a day hitting buttons is work, then I've done more work in a month than most do in their lives.


A person like you believes that it's manual labor that runs the business world, and nothing else.
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