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Giuliani on Crime
« on: September 07, 2007, 07:11:21 PM »
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crime  
['krim]

Middle French, from Latin crimen fault, accusation, crime

1: conduct that is prohibited and has a specific punishment (as incarceration or fine) prescribed by public law
(compare delict tort)

2: an offense against public law usu. excluding a petty violation
(see also felony misdemeanor)
Note: Crimes in the common-law tradition were originally defined primarily by judicial decision. For the most part, common-law crimes are now codified. There is a general principle ``nullum crimen sine lege,'' that there can be no crime without a law. A crime generally consists of both conduct, known as the actus reus, and a concurrent state of mind, known as the mens rea.

3: criminal activity


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misdemeanor  
['mis-di-'me-ner]

: a crime that carries a less severe punishment than a felony

specif
: a crime punishable by a fine and by a term of imprisonment not to be served in a penitentiary and not to exceed one year
(compare felony)


Under the Immigration and Nationality Act illegal entry into the US constitutes a misdemeanor for first-time offenders, while persons who have been shown to repeatedly enter the US can be charged as a felony.


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"It's not a crime," Giuliani said Friday. "I know that's very hard for people to understand, but it's not a federal crime."

Giuliani's comments came in an interview with CNN Headline News and radio talk-show host Glenn Beck.

"I was U.S. attorney in the Southern district of New York," he said. "So believe me, I know this. In fact, when you throw an immigrant out of the country, it's not a criminal proceeding. It's a civil proceeding."

Illegal immigration shouldn't be a crime, either, Giuliani said: "No, it shouldn't be because the government wouldn't be able to prosecute it. We couldn't prosecute 12 million people. We have only 2 million people in jail right now for all the crimes that are committed in the country, 2.5 million."


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What law school did he go to?
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Offline john9001

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Giuliani on Crime
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 07:28:48 PM »
""In a well-publicized 1982 case, Giuliani testified in defense of the federal government's "detention posture" regarding the internment of over 2,000 Haitian asylum-seekers who had entered the country illegally. The U.S. government disputed the assertion that most of the detainees had fled their country due to political persecution, alleging instead that they were "economic migrants." In defense of the government's position, Giuliani stated at one point that political repression under President Jean-Claude Duvalier (the infamous "Baby Doc") no longer existed. After meeting personally with Duvalier, Giuliani testified that "political repression, at least in general, does not exist" in Haiti under Duvalier's regime.""

i was for it before i was against it  but now i want to be el presidente.