The State contorlling your heater?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by wrag
You think such things are only going to remain in Kalifornia?

If the reactions around here are any indication, yes.

Get many rolling blackouts in Nevada?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by TalonX

When California finally falls into the ocean...

Can't happen. It's a plate tectonic thing... but thanks!

[AquaShrimp]

I'm not sure anyone has built a nuke power-plant in the US in the past couple of decades.

No they haven't, but they are getting ready to build quite a few.  The new nuclear power plants in the U.S. will all be standardized, similar to the size used in France.  I can't remember exactly how many will be built, but I think it was a pretty sizeable number (70 perhaps).

[SOB]

Sounds like a solid plan to me.  Anything to keep the Kalifornians having to beg juice off of their neighbors . . . and then biting the hands that help them.

http://www.kgw.com/business/stories/kgw_010408_business_power_settlement.ba63565.html

I like the idea of a fence between the US and Mexico... and while we're at it, maybe we could extend it north a bit to help keep the loonies in.  I'd say the government is a minor threat compared to the plague that is the voters that could spread into surrounding states, yearning to be told how to live and voting likewise.  It gives me the shivers just thinking about it!

[bj229r]

Perhaps if Kalifornia wasn't funding stuff like its OWN STEM CELL research, it might have money for a power plant or 2

[Gunthr]

Certainly there is a prime reason why CA is having an evergy crisis? Are CA public utilities at fault?  It seems they should have been able to foresee the ever-increasing CA population and extrapolate future energy demand and build power generating facilities to accommodate it, doesn't it?????

I thought that maybe since CA is one of the country's most liberal states that maybe they couldn't build power plants because, since only the power customers can pay for it, and since the customers were maybe already overtaxed, it couldn't be done.  But i think CA is about average or less in taxes of all the states...

so, what is it?  Why is CA coming up short on energy?

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by AquaShrimp
No they haven't, but they are getting ready to build quite a few.  The new nuclear power plants in the U.S. will all be standardized, similar to the size used in France.  I can't remember exactly how many will be built, but I think it was a pretty sizeable number (70 perhaps).

Reactors are sized by their available heatsink..  Standardization comes from the main two US manufactuers (GE and Westinghouse)..  Only a few proven designs are around in the US, boiling water reactors (BWR), pressure reactors (PWR),  the newer advanced boiling and pressure water reactors (ABWR n APWR), and even a newer design the Advanced passive pressure water reactor..  The next two units to come online in the US are underconstruction now and will be Advanced PWRs.. Fun stuff! 8)

[lazs2]

sandie..  I did not say that the program will not work as a point of debate.

I am saying that you can't get something for nothing.. it is impossible.  It can't work and is a bandaid.

Now.. if you are saying that stockton will have a moritorium on building and that the program is used to simply cut down on power use by making everyone who currently is on the program get less service for the same money they paid last year.. then yes.. it will "work".

putting two families to every home will "work".  

At least until they build some new houses.   We have had a program that is similar for years.. 20 years in fact with PG&E.

They give you a break on your bill if you allow them to put an interupter on your AC unit that turns it off for 10 minutes at a time during peak hours.  

with the power they "saved" they were able to allow developers to build vastly more housing tracts and not charge em for infrastructure.

now.. we have even more houses with an even worse infrastructure.

The only way to make it "work" is to charge old customers for repair and maintenance and charge new customers for expansion.

You can give rebates and breaks to people for all sorts of things you think are helping you too tho.

lazs