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Offline Gunslinger

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U.S. Air Force Plans Coal-to-Fuel Conversion Plant
« on: March 24, 2008, 04:56:02 PM »
The Air Force has recently been leading the way testing some of it's heavys flying "biogas"  Now it wants to lead the way in finding an alternative fuel source so our country's strategic intrests are not dependent on a foreign power.  I whole heartedly hope they succeed and are not bogged down by global warming "alarmists".


I find it interesting that this would come with little taxpayer cost as the USAF is offering land and a garunteed customer to a private firm to build and operate the plant.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,340923,00.html

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U.S. Air Force Plans Coal-to-Fuel Conversion Plant
Monday , March 24, 2008



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MALMSTROM AIR FORCE BASE, Mont. —

On a wind-swept air base near the Missouri River, the Air Force has launched an ambitious plan to wean itself from foreign oil by turning to a new and unlikely source: coal.

The Air Force wants to build at its Malmstrom base in central Montana the first piece of what it hopes will be a nationwide network of facilities that would convert domestic coal into cleaner-burning synthetic fuel.

Air Force officials said the plants could help neutralize a national security threat by tapping into the country's abundant coal reserves.

And by offering itself as a partner in the Malmstrom plant, the Air Force hopes to prod Wall Street investors — nervous over coal's role in climate change — to sink money into similar plants nationwide.

"We're going to be burning fossil fuels for a long time, and there's three times as much coal in the ground as there are oil reserves," said Air Force Assistant Secretary William Anderson. "Guess what? We're going to burn coal."

Tempering that vision, analysts say, is the astronomical cost of coal-to-liquids plants. Their high price tag, up to $5 billion apiece, would be hard to justify if oil prices were to drop.

In addition, coal has drawn wide opposition on Capitol Hill, where some leading lawmakers reject claims it can be transformed into a clean fuel.

Without emissions controls, experts say coal-to-liquids plants could churn out double the greenhouse gases as oil.

"We don't want new sources of energy that are going to make the greenhouse gas problem even worse," House Oversight Committee Chairman Henry Waxman, D-Calif., said in a recent interview.

The Air Force would not finance, construct or operate the coal plant. Instead, it has offered private developers a 700-acre site on the base and a promise that it would be a ready customer as the government's largest fuel consumer.

Bids on the project are due in May. Construction is expected to take four years once the Air Force selects a developer.

Anderson said the Air Force plans to fuel half its North American fleet with a synthetic-fuel blend by 2016. To do so, it would need 400 million gallons of coal-based fuel annually.

With the Air Force paving the way, Anderson said the private sector would follow — from commercial air fleets to long-haul trucking companies.

"Because of our size, we can move the market along," he said. "Whether it's (coal-based) diesel that goes into Wal-Mart trucks or jet fuel that goes into our fighters, all that will reduce our dependence on foreign oil, which is the endgame."

Coal producers have been unsuccessful in prior efforts to cultivate such a market. Climate change worries prompted Congress last year to turn back an attempt to mandate the use of coal-based synthetic fuels.

The Air Force's involvement comes at a critical time for the industry. Coal's biggest customers, electric utilities, have scrapped at least four dozen proposed coal-fired power plants over rising costs and the uncertainties of climate change.

That would change quickly if coal-to-liquids plants gained political and economic traction under the Air Force's plan.

"This is a change agent for the entire industry," said John Baardson, CEO of Baard Energy in Vancouver, Wash., which is awaiting permits on a proposed $5 billion coal-based synthetic fuels plant in Ohio. "There would be a number of plants that would be needed just to support (the Air Force's) needs alone."

Only about 15 percent of the 25,000 barrels of synthetic fuel that would be produced daily at the Malmstrom plant would be suitable for jet fuel. The remainder would be lower-grade diesel for vehicles, trains or trucks and naphtha, a material used in the chemical industry.

That means the Air Force would need at least seven plants of the same size to meet its 2016 goal, said Col. Bobbie "Griff" Griffin, senior assistant to Anderson.

Coal producers have their sights set even higher.

A 2006 report from the National Coal Council said a fully mature coal-to-liquids industry serving the commercial sector could produce 2.6 million barrels of fuel a day by 2025. Such an industry would more than double the nation's coal production, according to the industry-backed Coal-to-Liquids Coalition.

On Wall Street, however, skepticism lingers.

"Is it a viable technology? Certainly it is. The challenge seems to be getting the first couple (of plants) done," said industry analyst Gordon Howald with Calyon Securities. "For a company to commit to this and then five years later oil is back at $60 — this becomes the worst idea that ever happened."

Only two coal-to-liquids plants are now operating worldwide, all in South Africa. A third is scheduled to come online in China this year, said Corey Henry with the Coal-to-Liquids Coalition.

The Air Force is adamant it can advance the technology used in those plants to turn dirty coal into a "green fuel," by capturing the carbon dioxide and other, more toxic emissions produced during manufacturing.

However, that would not address emissions from burning the fuel, said Robert Williams, a senior research scientist at Princeton University.
but doesn't "biogas" release those same emissions?
To do more than simply break even, the industry must reduce the amount of coal used in the synthetic-fuel blend and supplement it with a fuel derived from plants, Williams said.

Air force officials said they were investigating that possibility.

In a recent letter to Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Rep. Waxman wrote that a promise to control greenhouse gas emissions from synthetic fuels was not enough.

Waxman and the committee's ranking Republican, Virginia's Tom Davis, cited a provision in the energy bill approved by Congress last year that bars federal agencies from entering contracts for synthetic fuels unless they emit the same or fewer greenhouse gases as petroleum.

Anderson said the Air Force will meet the law's requirements.

"They'd like to have (coal-to-liquids) because of security concerns — a reliable source of power. They're not thinking beyond that one issue," Waxman said. "(Climate change) is also a national security concern."




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Offline crockett

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Re: U.S. Air Force Plans Coal-to-Fuel Conversion Plant
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2008, 06:22:22 PM »
I was reading a article about a new company formed by a group of scientists who are engineering bacteria that can produce clean fuel. They are using e-coli and their by product can be used to make clean burning gasoline, bio diesel or jet fuel. One of the MIT poker players is one of the guys in on it and  apparently they are one of a few dozen new start up companies that are working on this kinda thing.

I'm sure we will have something that gets us off oil in the future. Coal may work but I couldn't see it as the best bet, but it is nice to see them trying something new.
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Re: U.S. Air Force Plans Coal-to-Fuel Conversion Plant
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2008, 06:29:19 PM »
Funny how coal to fuel conversion is presented as something new and unusual. This was already done by germans before the second world war and this contractor is probably using the very same methods with some modernization applied to the process to improve the efficiency.

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Re: U.S. Air Force Plans Coal-to-Fuel Conversion Plant
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2008, 06:48:17 PM »
Funny how coal to fuel conversion is presented as something new and unusual. This was already done by germans before the second world war and this contractor is probably using the very same methods with some modernization applied to the process to improve the efficiency.

I'm going to proclaim some ignorance here but in the laymans:  Doesn't fuel from coal produce the same type of emissions as fuel from corn?  I can't see how chemically they are that much different?

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Re: U.S. Air Force Plans Coal-to-Fuel Conversion Plant
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2008, 07:54:25 PM »
Yep, pretty much the same.

From Shell Gas & Power (Shell Oil Co.) site:

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The basic technology was developed in Germany in the 1920s, and is known as the Fischer-Tropsch process after its inventors. In essence it uses catalytic reactions to synthesise complex hydrocarbons from simpler organic chemicals. This process can create identical liquids from a variety of feedstocks, although the technical challenges are greater for biomass and coal.

 

There are two main categories of natural gas-based Fischer-Tropsch process technology: the high and the low temperature versions.
 
 
 
The high-temperature, iron catalyst-based Fischer-Tropsch GTL process produces fuels such as petrol (gasoline) and gasoil that are closer to those produced from conventional crude oil refining. The resultant GTL products are virtually free of sulphur, but contain aromatics.The low-temperature, cobalt catalyst-based Fischer-Tropsch GTL process, however, produces an extremely clean synthetic fraction of gasoil called GTL Fuel that is virtually free of sulphur and aromatics.
 

They built a plant in Malaysia in the 90's; it works. Profitability depends on the price of oil; with oil $100+ it's probably a good deal. Oil in the $60's it would be a disaster.
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Re: U.S. Air Force Plans Coal-to-Fuel Conversion Plant
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2008, 09:30:47 PM »
A turbine will burn anything. You just have to set it up to handle consumption needs. Makes sense to have a back-up in place.
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Re: U.S. Air Force Plans Coal-to-Fuel Conversion Plant
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 09:43:05 PM »
SASOL, of South africa has been operation a coal to oil plant for several years.

160,000 bbl a day from a plant east of Johannesburg.

Shenhua Group, China's largest coal producer, broke ground in 2006 on a 200,000 bbl /day plant.
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Re: U.S. Air Force Plans Coal-to-Fuel Conversion Plant
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2008, 09:47:29 PM »
The USAF's interest is of course national security. Should the world run out of oil there would at least be fuel to conque... er... defend our nation from agression.
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