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Offline DREDIOCK

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Suggestions for an $800 budget
« on: March 16, 2008, 06:46:13 PM »


Ok wife of a friend wants me to build her a machine on a budget of around $800 +the cost of XP professional.

The machine will primarily be used for business aplications. record/bookkeeping, clients etc
As well as generally surfing the web, some light photoshopping,etc

She will be using her current monitor,keyboard etc. so some savings can be made there.


Im not as p to date as to the value of whats out there at this time.

Just looking for general suggestions of what I can reasonably expect to  be able to slap together for her in this price range
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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2008, 06:59:20 PM »
I have thought about the same thing for a 3rd comp of mine. I would go with the abit pro mainboard, a 2.2 gig duo core intel chip and a 250 gig hd. She won't need a sound card, the abit board does quite well. She also won't need a high end graphics card. You can also get get an inexpensive case and always a decent ps.

Sorry there's no pricing involved. I did a prices list of the memory, mb, chip, and ps and it came to over $400. So that leaves $400 for the vc, windows xp, hard drive, and case. I think you can get it done.

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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2008, 08:49:52 PM »
Are you actually "building" it? or just looking for a pre-assembled comp that is decent?
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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2008, 06:22:58 AM »
Are you actually "building" it? or just looking for a pre-assembled comp that is decent?

Building it.

I suggested that for what she does with it she could just get another EMachine or something like that but

She doesnt want a machine with Vista on it.

And she knows I could probably build her a better machine for the money then she can buy in a store.
Particularly since the labor will be free LOL
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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2008, 11:01:27 AM »
 for $800 a non gamer machine you have a lot of choices and you'll still be way under budget. Check out Newegg.com you can use their wish list to look at cost of all the components. Look at your friends current machine and see what she likes or dislikes about it. Will she be using multiple monitors, multiple apps, printers, scanners, network, other business related hardware. The more you understand what she does the more you'll know what hardware you need to build her a solid machine.

 A good solid no frills MB is probally the way to go. Stay away from the cheap stuff like ECS. Eliminate SLI boards, or any boards that have a lot of gamer tweaks. Look at onboard sound and onboard video boards unless your going to add a video card. Video cards; not a gaming machine you just need a solid reliable card. Most business applications use onboard video but a video card will help speed things up.

 CPU. Dual core. You could go cheap and buy a good AMD x2 under $100 or spend a little more on a Intel. Intel has a perfomance edge. Your not building a gaming machine but I would still go with Intel. Hard drives; Need lots of storage capacity. Find out how much storage your friend is currently using. That will give you an idea of storage needed. No need to scrimp on storage 7200 rpm drives are cheap and reliable. For a business app you probally don't want to go Raid 0. Lose one drive with raid 0 and lose your data. Windows XP; Does she need pro or home?

Computer case; Newer CPUs run hotter than the older single core stuff. More fans mean more noise. I would look at the internal design closely. Aluminum cases are light but many have internal bracing running all the way to the bottom which blocks air from the front fans(Ultra case, nice light but airflow not very good). Where are the HDs mounted? Mid tower or Mini? Mini's; be carefull. Most mini's don't have room for effective cooling. Steel is heavier but will insulate the sound better and may flow air better. Look at where computer case will be mounted. An extra cpu fan in door is nice.. unless it blows on your leg all day.

General recomendation;
 Dual core CPU
 7200 RPM HD(500GBs are around $100)
 Ram 2GB
 Onboard sound
 Onboard video or low cost video card.
 PSU  500watts or less.(Newegg.com has a wattage calculator)
« Last Edit: March 17, 2008, 11:17:53 AM by alskahawk »

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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2008, 11:17:04 AM »
Mid-tower Case (~50)
Mid-upper tier Intel P-35 Motherboard (~150)
Intel Core 2 Duo (~160... 2+Ghz)
Acceptable NVIDEA card (~150... probably overkill for your friend's wife though)
PSU (~60)
2 Gb RAM (~50)
250 Gb HD (~70)
DVD-RW (~40)
Sound (on-board)
Win XP Pro (~130)
Speakers (up to you)

Total (~860 plus or minus)

You can easily trim this to budget but it gives you an idea of what you can build.
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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2008, 02:52:38 PM »
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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2008, 04:46:01 PM »
Want save yourself some time you can look at cyberpowerpc.com which dragon hinted at.  I know you dont need gaming but real nice gaming pcs there for under $600.
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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2008, 07:56:10 PM »
Well unless the comp is going to be doing some demanding things you can save money on two things, or more (i don't have expierience on a lot of areas, but these i do): PSU, Power Supply Unit, doesn't need to be more than maybe 350-400Watts and they can be found for 20$ and they're reliable  :aok .  And the video card for about 40-50$ you can get an NVidia GeForce 7100 GS, on the lower end (runs AH at 3/4 highest setting at 40-75 FRPS). just my input  :D
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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2008, 11:07:25 PM »
Personally, I think some of the system you guys are quoting are a bit overkill for what this person really needs.  $500-$600 will build the rig just fine.  And if they really want to spend $800, why not get a nice big LCD if their current monitor is say an CRT.

I'm not gonna break down some of the prices, but here's some of my suggestions
1) Do buy a Case/PSU combo that is sub $75.  PSU's need to be good quality if you want them to last and not fry everything.  Cheap cases really suck when you're building them.  Bad flow, sharp corners, bad instructions, wierd wiring for front USB/audio ports.  I might spend a little more than average on a case.
2) I'd stick with the C2D's.  Only way I'd go AMD is with really really low budget systems.
3) 2Gb of ram is standard.  Spend about $50 on this.  Don't go out buying Corsair stuff, it's not needed in this application.  Just don't buy 'Generic' or 'House Brand'
4) Get a motherboard with onboard sound.  Onboard video is optional, or get a $50 video card.  Onboard video works just fine for your non-gamer.
5) I'd avoid ECS motherboards like the plague.  Or some off-brand stuff.  Stick with the major players, read some reviews.
6) DVD burners etc, get whatever is priced right.
7) Memory card readers are kind of nice.  I picked one up and its faster than a USB cable with my camera.

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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2008, 08:56:09 AM »
Get a $400 OEM box and spend the rest on vodka. Just a thought..  :rolleyes:

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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2008, 07:24:01 PM »
Since you've already gotten loads of great advice on this machine, I'm not going to go into what I'd recommend part, by part for every component in the system.  Looks like you're already covered in spades there.

A few points I do want to mention about a few of the parts, however, based on my own experiences with machine builds:

1.) I don't recommend scrimping on PSUs either.  Get a reputable brand, but yeah, you don't need a 1 avacadot thermonuclear reactor here (as I'm willing to bet you already know, if you do builds).  Go a bit lower wattage for a build like this, and stay with someone reputable (my personal favorite for builds in this range is SeaSonic PSUs).

2.) Somebody mentioned RAID 0 above - I can't imagine why this type of build would ever need striping.  If data-loss is a critical concern, then mirroring maybe, but they shouldn't need striping for what you've described.  Installing a raid setup, with the raid-driver setup issues with XP can be its own headache, and so can walking the user through disk management issues -- and those are headaches they'll more than likely dump in your lap the first time they get confused, or anything goes wrong.  For this type of build, my vote is avoid raid like the plague.  The newer Seagate 7200.11 SATA 3 'Cuda drives with the second generation of their perpendicular recording technology are very fast, and a half terabyte will only set you back about one Franklin.  That should be more than adequate.  Hell, a simple, yet solid 7200 RPM WD vanilla drive would probably work just as well here too.

3.) You mentioned light Photoshopping.  I'm with Bald, Fulmar, and Dragon - go 2 GB for your system RAM, no less.  Just be sure to grab a Mobo with 4 ram slots and start her off with 2 X 1 GB sticks.  That way, if 'light Photoshopping' turns into 'heavy Photoshopping', she has an upgrade path that's as cheep and simple as possible.  She can just grab a couple more half gig sticks and she's right up to 3 GB - easy peasy.

4.) If you expect that you'll be the guy fixing this machine if she breaks it (and they *always* seem to do something to break our pretty machines in record time, don't they?) I'd say don't worry as much about which case you think she might find aesthetically pleasing , and worry more about what will be the easiest for you to crack open and work with over the months/years.  Personally, I've made it a habit of going for  case designs that permit quick and easy access to their interiors without the need for screwdrivers, etc., (though if the person has nosy kids, you may want to re-think this one) and cases that have the same easy access to drive bays so that I can quickly slap in a new drive when they need more HD space, etc., etc.  Other than that, my only other real issue with cases is whether they do the little things - like roll the metal's edges over so you don't sever an artery in your finger when you try to connect a SATA cable, or blow a lint bunny out of your CPU's fan. :P

Again, since you're a fellow builder, you probably know a lot of this already - I just wanted to chime in with everyone else, since you were soliciting suggestions and I'm killing time.  ;)

Good luck with the build!

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Re: Suggestions for an $800 budget
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2008, 08:44:54 PM »
Ok heres what I ended up throwing together for them

Case - Foxconn TS-01 mid tower  w/350 watt PS
Motherboard - Intel Classic series DG31PR
CPU - Intel Core2  E6550 LGA775Pkg 2.33 GHZ 4MB L2 Cache 1333MHz FSB
Ram - 2- Kingston KVR667D2N5/1G
Hard Drive - Seagate SATA II 250 Gig
CD/DVD - LITEON 16X/20X DVD Writer Model LH-20A1S12C.
Windows XP Professional

Total (including XP Pro $159) $717 + 7% sales tax =$767

basically $558 for parts not including NJ sales tax

Should be a nice little system for them.
Motherboard is enough to upgrade to Quad core if they feel the need (they wont)

Only complaint is the case only came with one fan installed. I had another brand new Dynex blue LED laying around so I threw that in the front for extra airflow.
she should find the pretty lights cool too LOL.
The case itself I found very easy to work on. I chose the mid towed as opposed to the smaller one for added airflow as well.

Figure I can pull the CD drive out of their old machine if they feel the need for 2. Which again I doubt.
but it is always an option
they dont need a media card reader as their printer already has one

Didnt bother with a graphics,sound or Ethernet card as they arent gamers.
Again it will mostley be used for business record keeping, surfing the net. listening to music and very light photoshop work etc


So far so good
installing XP as im typing this.

« Last Edit: April 02, 2008, 08:53:47 PM by DREDIOCK »
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