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Offline B4Buster

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Wow...pretty cool
« on: March 25, 2009, 06:41:00 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jueDXiuU6aM&NR=1

If you read the captions by the author, it's a 190A-5 of JG54.

Makes you wonder how many more lost planes may still be out there yet to be found.
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2009, 06:47:55 PM »
After some quick googling it appears this aircraft is now in the U.S. via G.B. at Vulcan Warbirds in WA.  It's in good company too, oh my, they have a 262, a 152, edit:FW 189, and many more warbirds registered.  Gonna try and find some up to date pics.
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2009, 06:48:55 PM »
Wow Tec, thanks for the info  :aok
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2009, 06:54:53 PM »
Suspicions based on the location in WA confirmed, that is Paul Allen's collection.  He is one lucky man.  Still looking for more info.
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2009, 06:56:47 PM »
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2009, 07:02:46 PM »
Only pic I could find, and this is supposedly four years old or so.

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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2009, 07:05:21 PM »
I want to find a WW2 warbird in the middle of the woods  :furious
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2009, 07:06:04 PM »
Quote from: B4Buster on March 25, 2009, 06:41:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jueDXiuU6aM&NR=1

If you read the captions by the author, it's a 190A-5 of JG54.

Makes you wonder how many more lost planes may still be out there yet to be found.

i posted this a couple months ago, I found the whole back story of the plane and the pilot and everything, I'll see if I can find the thread
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2009, 07:07:29 PM »
Quote from: CAVPFCDD on March 25, 2009, 07:06:04 PM
i posted this a couple months ago, I found the whole back story of the plane and the pilot and everything, I'll see if I can find the thread

Oh sorry didn't know, sure would love to see it
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2009, 07:09:21 PM »
Vids been posted a few times already. But one of those that never gets old
What always amazes me is after 50 years exposed to the elements how great a shape these finds often are in.
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2009, 08:34:49 PM »
Quote from: B4Buster on March 25, 2009, 07:07:29 PM
Oh sorry didn't know, sure would love to see it

no need to say sorry, i didn't mean to come off sounding kinda snoody, it is a very interesting story.


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It is a Fw190-A5. Pilot is still listed as MISSING.
"Fw190 A5 White A of 4./JG54
This Focke-wulf 190 was manufactured in April 1943, originally as an A-5 variant and supplied with the full work number 0151227 by the parent factory of Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau GmbH at Bremen.

THE LOSS OF FW190 A5 W.Nr 1227.
On Monday 19th July 1943 Fw190 A-5 W.Nr 1227 'White A' went on a mission carrying a SC250 (550Ib) bomb. Taking off from Siwerskaja, on what was probably a hot summer day, 'White A' headed for the Front line which was only fifteen or so minutes flight time away. Crossing the front line over the Dvina River, the Fw190, flying with another crossed it and headed East. Whilst behind enemy lines, in an area called Voibakala, the 'Rotte' attacked an armoured train and reportedly suffered damage from flak. The loss report indicates the Fw190 crash landed due to this damage, although none was located on the airframe. It Fw190 suffered a catastrophic failure of the BMW801, caused by a rag -sabotage is suspected as it was a new engine was fitted a few days before. The Fw190 was recorded as being 100% lost in the map reference co-ordinates of Pl.Qu.20124. This grid system based on 1:200,000 maps was used to identify crash sites, possibly for salvage, recovery of missing pilots or as the best way of identifying an area consisting of unpronounceable Russian towns, villages and large areas of forests and lakes. The more numbers the Pl.Qu. reference gives, the smaller the area of the location. A key to this 'code', would help identify literally dozens of possible recoveries within Russia!!
The pilot Feldwebel Paul Rätz survived the crash landed behind enemy lines. He removed his leather flying helmet and retrieved the first air kit from the rear fuselage and is thought to have headed West back to the front line only a dozen or so miles from the crash site. He was undoubtedly captured by the Russians and interned although the Luftwaffe loss report still class him as 'Vermißt' (missing) in action.

Found in silver birch forest 1989. Recovered 1991. Doug/David Arnold and now Paul Allen



Feldwebel Paul Rätz the pilot survived the crash landing but was taken prisoner by the Russians where he was subjected to ten years of hard labour. Herr Rätz was repatriated to Germany during the 1950s but sadly died just before his aircraft was recovered.
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2009, 09:46:10 PM »
wow amazing story. It's too bad he didn't live to see his plane restored.
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Re: Wow...pretty cool
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 11:37:28 PM »
Germany's blare witch project?
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