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Offline moot

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Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« on: May 06, 2009, 05:23:01 AM »
Didn't someone compile the Instant/Sustained turn rates and circles for the whole plane set?
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Re: Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2009, 07:37:41 AM »
Spatula has a chart with both sustained/instant turn rates with flaps up/down in a comparison type format. Nice chart.


www.my2cents.co.nz/AKUAG/Resources.aspx   Its on this page link.


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Re: Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 08:25:06 AM »
That's the one, thanks.
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Re: Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2009, 09:34:21 AM »
Ahhhh.... very nice resource.   :aok
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Re: Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 07:06:32 AM »
I just wish I could find a chart or something to show the optimum corner velocities for all the AH airframes.

Yes, it is a great resource. Stumbled upon it one day a few years back.

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Re: Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2009, 11:18:55 AM »
Quote from: chewiex on May 07, 2009, 07:06:32 AM
I just wish I could find a chart or something to show the optimum corner velocities for all the AH airframes.

Yes, it is a great resource. Stumbled upon it one day a few years back.

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Chewie, Badboy's bootstrap calculator will allow you to go test the aircraft, input the data, and derive these yourself.  Do a search for it.
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Re: Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2009, 07:28:58 AM »
 :aok Thanks Stoney, saw that. I just don't have or know how to use the compatible program he refers to. ie; Excel, MS office, etc. Will have to give it a try.

Thanks for your input.

BTW, does anyone have a clue if there is a set difference between sustained turn speed and corner velocity? Say, for example, Bf109g-14, sustained turn speed 160 mph (per Spatulas chart), the corner velocity of the 109 is obviously going to be faster than that, at least twice that I would think. Would a (2x/sustained turn speed) be a reasonable estimate for corner velocity for all the AHII airframes or will each A/C have its own speed differential between STS and CV? Just curious, thought maybe a good point to test from.

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Re: Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2009, 07:41:22 AM »
Quote from: chewiex on May 11, 2009, 07:28:58 AM
:aok Thanks Stoney, saw that. I just don't have or know how to use the compatible program he refers to. ie; Excel, MS office, etc. Will have to give it a try.

Just download Openoffice, you'll have a suite compatible with MS Office and totally free.

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BTW, does anyone have a clue if there is a set difference between sustained turn speed and corner velocity? Say, for example, Bf109g-14, sustained turn speed 160 mph (per Spatulas chart), the corner velocity of the 109 is obviously going to be faster than that, at least twice that I would think. Would a (2x/sustained turn speed) be a reasonable estimate for corner velocity for all the AHII airframes or will each A/C have its own speed differential between STS and CV? Just curious, thought maybe a good point to test from.

AFAIK, there's no set relationship between sustained and corner velocity turn rates... I'm afraid there's no way to do what you're suggesting.
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Re: Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2009, 08:49:09 AM »
 :aok RGR that Gianlupo. I will try that software. I just thought maybe there was a correlation between the two,CV and TS. Thanks for the input. :salute
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Re: Instantaneous/Sustained turn figures
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2009, 09:17:18 AM »
You're welcome, but don't forget I said AFAIK. I'm not an engineer, so maybe you should ask someone else before giving up! :D
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