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Offline BBGunn

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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2000, 01:14:00 AM »
Heinkel 100- top speed at 16,404 ft was 416mph;  initial climb rate was 3280ft/min;  max range 628 miles.  Weapons: one 20mm and two 7.9mm's in nose.  Only 25 were built.  It was billed in German propaganda as the HE 113. The propaganda was supposed to convince the allies that hundreds of these "superior" planes existed so that resistance was futile.  As already pointed out the Luftwaffe stayed with Messerschmidtts.  

If there were any large bodies of water in this sim then I would like to see the Arado 196 float plane.  Just kick back on the lake with a beer and your favorite bass outfit. HEHE  This plane was not a whimp-it carried two 20mm and a 7.9mm forward firing and one or two rear firing machine guns.  546 were built.

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Offline Westy

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2000, 10:00:00 AM »

 Here you go BBGun....
 Ready to soar in Norway  

 

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Offline BBGunn

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2000, 04:42:00 PM »
Hey Westy- Thats a great pic.  Thanks I needed that!  

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2000, 05:54:00 PM »
Spades, with the current AH bias towards large fuel capacities, the Fw 190G might be the choice over the F.  I believe the wing pylons on the G could carry fuel or bombs, while the F just had the pairs of small pylons for 50kg or 70kg bombs.

So with a G you could carry centerline bombs (4x50kg, 1 x 250kg, or 1 x 500 kg) and wing fuel tanks, OR you could carry centerline fuel and 2 x 250 kg on the wings.  And if you had a really close target, you could carry bombs on all three stations.  

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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2000, 06:26:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by dolomite:
Though not an online sim, EAW (European Air War) has:

Me410
He111
Ju88C
Me262

Yep.  And Their Finest Hour w/Secrets Weapons of the Luftwaffe had some more.  (At least I think it was TFH... Could be wrong.  Did that once before ya know.)  Maybe it Was BoB?  Anyway, it was a pretty good sim for its time, (Early 80's?) and I loved it!

Now... What's wrong with the He111?  How come all the rants for Luft buffs excluded that venerable workhorse?



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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2000, 07:48:00 PM »
Sorry, couldn't resist, but do any of you have any interest in flying the Fi 156.  

Now, getting a kill in that plane would be very difficult indeed.

Either that, or the perfect head-on weapon, the Fi 103R (piloted V1), OUCH!  

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing He 111H-16 as an axis bomber.  Either that, or how about a Ju-52 as another transport option?

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2000, 11:02:00 PM »
Tante Ju! Tante Ju!  

The He-111H is wanted, but not until we get a late-war "uber" bomber first(Ju188S!), to fit in with all the late-war "uber" fighters. When we get more early/mid-war "workhorse" fighters (Spit V, C.202, etc...  ) then it will fit nicely.

Funked;

Aside from the extra cowl machineguns carried by the F, is their really any major difference between the F and G? I read that the G-8/F-8 were virtually the same aircraft, with different bombracks is all.

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2000, 07:58:00 AM »
My pleasure BBGun. And here's one for Bloom25.

 

This guy has alot of good stuff on his homepage. This is where I got these last two pictures:
 http://home.sol.no/~odybvig/index.html

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2000, 09:51:00 AM »
Tern,
Average life span of an HE111 with this plane set would be 45 seconds...
For purposes of this game it is undefended.

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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2000, 12:13:00 PM »
Cool Pic Westy!

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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2000, 12:15:00 PM »
Flakbait:

I don't know if the He 162 would be a "POS".  The BMW engines were much more reliable than their Jumo counterparts.  Certainly it had dangerous handling, but it could reward an expert pilot.  The thrust:weight ratio and thus climb and acceleration were much better than the Me 262.  Top speed was higher as well.  The 162 would be a real "pocket rocket" until the fuel ran out.    

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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2000, 03:13:00 AM »
The thing is you guys kind of have a Fw 190F, already.  The A-8 is about as armoured as the F was.  The loadouts allow for only two 20mms, and the normal bomb loadouts of the F (the 500kg bomb was rarely used in the F.  The 250kg was the norm, along with lighter wing-mounted bombs).  All you need are tactical ground targets.


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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2000, 07:29:00 AM »
Most F didn't have the armor installed because it killed range.

Also most F had wing pylons for either 4 x 50kg HE bombs or 4 x 70kg cluster bombs, which you acknowledge.

I think we have appropriate targets already, they are just impossible to attack with the SDI AAA system.

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