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Offline Stoliman

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Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« on: August 07, 2009, 06:09:26 PM »
After the update, I went and got a new higher end (although two year old) system.  Until this latest patch I did not get any stuttering, but now I am, like around airfields.  Any thoughts?  Here is my DxDiag:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/7/2009, 18:02:45
       Machine name: RICK-F767A45FE3
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
       System Model: HP xw8400 Workstation
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5345  @ 2.33GHz (8 CPUs)
             Memory: 3072MB RAM
          Page File: 820MB used, 4135MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: Quadro FX 4600
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_019E&SUBSYS_040810DE&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 768.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.8274 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 7/2/2009 12:08:00, 6192128 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 7/2/2009 12:08:00, 6285664 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42DE-11CF-3C53-032403C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x019E
        SubSys ID: 0x040810DE
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
 Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run
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Re: Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2009, 08:19:21 AM »
Could you open up that computer and tell us how many sticks of RAM are in there? 3GB is typically a strange number to see in RAM. The video card in that system isn't too bright, either.
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Re: Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2009, 10:31:53 AM »
The video card in that system isn't too bright, either.
You're joking right? Granted the Quadro's aren't designed for games but that 4600 should be able to handle this game...similar to a low end GeForce 8800 series.

Been a few months since I opened an HP workstation grade system up but the xw8400 should have 6 memory slots in it...what's interesting is the 2 quad core Xeon processors...a little overkill there.

You're running 32bit Windows XP was that a factory install or did you install that yourself? Should be running 64bit Vista or Windows 7.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2009, 10:44:24 AM by gyrene81 »
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Re: Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2009, 01:27:25 PM »
I was told the FX series (specifically the 5500) from NVIDIA was terrible. Seeing as he's one level beneath the 5500, I made a natural assumption that his video card is junk.
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Re: Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2009, 02:03:29 PM »
You're joking right? Granted the Quadro's aren't designed for games but that 4600 should be able to handle this game...similar to a low end GeForce 8800 series.

Been a few months since I opened an HP workstation grade system up but the xw8400 should have 6 memory slots in it...what's interesting is the 2 quad core Xeon processors...a little overkill there.

You're running 32bit Windows XP was that a factory install or did you install that yourself? Should be running 64bit Vista or Windows 7.


Not at all, the the Quadra is 768MB and not even close to an 8800 low end card.   They are based on G80 architecture.  Not to mention Xeon's are not good gaming processors from most everything I have read.   
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Re: Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2009, 03:27:14 PM »
Overkill, yes.  I work at HP and was able to pick up a two year old top of the line (at the time) high end Intel workstation, the xw8400.

And oddly now....the problem has gone away.  I turned the graphics on the card all the way down, then back up, then did the same in-game.  No more problem.  Back to 60FPS with all graphics maxed out, no stutters again.

I wish they were all that easy.
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Re: Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2009, 04:25:23 PM »
Well, glad it works for you. I would still swap out that video card for something a little more powerful (GeForce 8600 or ATI eqivalent).
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Re: Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2009, 07:50:00 PM »
Not at all, the the Quadra is 768MB and not even close to an 8800 low end card.   They are based on G80 architecture. 
Actually, according to the technical specs several GeForce 8000 is almost match the Quadro FX4600...the FX4600 might have a higher bandwidth to all but the 8800 Ultra.


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If you're gonna game with that system and you can afford it...(working at HP you should be able to  :D)...buy a better video card...GeForce 9500GT or better.
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Re: Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2009, 08:15:16 PM »
Actually, according to the technical specs several GeForce 8000 is almost match the Quadro FX4600...the FX4600 might have a higher bandwidth to all but the 8800 Ultra.


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If you're gonna game with that system and you can afford it...(working at HP you should be able to  :D)...buy a better video card...GeForce 9500GT or better.

The G80 (Quadro) is inferior to the G92 architecture (my 8800GTS KO for instance).   The Quadro is a "Workstation Card" and that is it.   
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Re: Skuzzy - no stutters before, but getting them now?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2009, 12:26:36 AM »
same here.  Not sure what it is.

Seems like they dumbed down the netcode or something.  Collision / rubber bullets etc all back again, strange net status, 5 second freezes with sound stuck in a stutter like the system locked up.

My system has NEVER locked up since installing windows 7 and putting in a new mobo/cpu/mem.

Intel e8400
4 gigs good mem with fast timings
Good top quality EVGA mobo
EVGA 8800 gts 512 m (g92) (<---better than most 9 series cards)

Connection pretty good, router with custom routes and IOS installed. 

Very much MADE for gaming with the money I could muster.