fw190 load out

[weretiger]

type of load
weight
speed loss combat/climb
speed loss max with/without load.


Mk 108 with 55 rnds in the wing
+ 408 lbs
Not specified But the same loss (or gain) as with the max is a good approximation    Usually mounted instead of the outer guns: total speed loss (–4+2): 2 mph.
Some times the Mgs were removed on that case no speed changes.

Removal of the MG 17 and ammo from the nose---182 lb
Not specified But the same loss (or gain) as with the max is a good approximation
+2 mph

Removal of the Mg 131 and ammo (475 rnds)
-361 lbs
Usually when 30 mil outside position of the wing (inside the wing) and strum armor
+2 mph

mg FF removed moved from the outer position (90 rnds)
-260 lbs
Not specified but the same loss (or gain) as with the max is a good approximation   
+2 mph

mg 151/20 removed moved from the outer position (150 rnds)
- 361 lbs
Not specified But the same loss (or gain) as with the max is a good approximation
+2 mph

Mg 151/20 inner wing with 150 rnds instead of 250
+100 lbs
Usually used on long range fighter-bomber to save weight.
+1 mph

2 Gondolas with 2 mg 151/20 (150 rnds each)+800 lbs
Not specified But the same loss (or gain) as with the max is a good approximation
-30 mph

W.gr 2*21 cm mortar
+600
Idem as above
-20 mph

2 extra MG 151/20 in the wing (150 round each)
+361lbs
Idem as above
-3 mph

30 mil  gondola (mk 103/108)
60 rounds
+200 lbs
Idem as above
-10 mph

With  tank (66 gal)
+ 730 lbs
Idem as above
-30/-10 mph

With bombs 1*500 kg
+1200 lbs
Idem as above
-30/-12 mph

With bombs 1*250 kg
+700 lbs
Idem as above
-20/-12 mph

With 4* 50  kg bombs
+ 680 lbs
Idem as above
-30/-20 mph

With 1* 1000  kg
Can only be used if outer gun removed.
+2040 lbs
Idem as above
-30/-12 mph

1* 250 (fuselage)+2*2 sc 50 (wings)
Can only be used if outer gun removed.
+910 lbs
Idem as above
- 60/-30 mph

4* 50 kg (fuselage)+ 4*50 kg (wing)
Can only be used if outer gun removed.
+890 lbs
Idem as above
- 70/-30 mph

Strum fighter armour (R2 i believe)
+ 440 lbs
- 3 mph

Ground fighter armour
+ 550 lbs
- 5 mph

2 Wing fuel tanks 300 litres on V.Mtt-Schlos locks,   + 1500
-40/-9 mph

2 Wing fuel tanks 300 litres on V.Mtt-Schlos locks or VTr-Ju 87 and duralumin fairings+ 1500
-25/-25 mph


[This message has been edited by weretiger (edited 11-09-1999).]
I change the MK108 to reflect the 55 rounds it carried normally.

[This message has been edited by weretiger (edited 11-15-1999).]

[Jochen]

Weretiger, can I borrow this info to website?

By the way, absolutely f*cking brilliant piece of information! I have been trying to find these things for some time and now you splash all this here.

The loadout of 4 X SC 50 on ETC 501 rack with ER 4 adapter could be included to our current Fw 190A-8...

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jochen
Geschwaderkommodore
Jagdgeschwader 2 'Richthofen' (Warbirds)

If you ever get across the sea to England,
Then maybe at the closing of the day
The bars will all be serving German lager
Which means we won the war - hip hip hooray!

[weretiger]

yope no problemo
By the way if anyone find contradictings info.
let me know.

As my experience proved you really have to cross check every bit of info......

this comming from the UK archives (AIR40/150 151 and 152)
About the A8
I do not know if it was ever used on a A8, but it was defintly possible.

Nb you can replace the 50 kg bomb by the 70 kg cluster bomb.

[Vermillion]

Hey Weretiger

Do you have the PRO Documents AIR40 #150-#152 ?  Is there any way to get a photocopy of them from you? I would be willing to pay for any photocopying costs and postage.

If I could get a copy, I would be willing to put them into Adobe PDF format and post them on a website.

I am interested in any original test data or documentation like that. My biggest problem with the UK PRO site is that it doesn't tell any details for the documents or even how large they are. And PRO wants an exorbitant fee for a copy of the documents and to ship them too you.  I would love to find someone in the UK to work with, who could occaisionally look at the documents to determine if they are useful before I decide to pay the cost of obtaining them.

Thanks

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Vermillion
WB's: (verm--), **MOL**, Men of Leisure,
"Real men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires "

[weretiger]

I know.........it is not easy.
The problem is that this is from several document and from several files.
The file 150 151 152 are humongous around 800 pages altogether.
(and there is other files on the BMW801 that you need as well.....)
I have a photocopies of few charts (the main ones). The main problem is you have to read through those record and cross-reference them
to finally arrive to that table.

The main problem is that even if you are there, there is a limited number (15) of photocopy that you can make in a day (you can of need to be there to see that this is what you wanted....)so even when there it is difficult. (i guess this is to protect professional researchers)

I can send you what i have.

May be you want to check with the Smithsonian's
They have a records of the captured Germans document..