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Offline TwinBoom

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hey fencer polish 51?
« on: February 14, 2010, 07:48:29 PM »
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Offline Kazan_HB

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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2010, 07:50:10 PM »
WTF?
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2010, 07:55:04 PM »
Quote from: Kazan_HB on February 14, 2010, 07:50:10 PM
WTF?

dunno only info i can find is that he flew spits no other info about a 51 , may be just an artist rendition
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2010, 07:58:14 PM »
I'd doubt it's real.

But, if it was, chances are it's post-war. There's a number of profiles and pics of polish markings on non-polish airframes. Yaks, IL2s, etc... All post-war. There was some soviet rule against allowing polish markings on polish aircraft until after 1946 or something. I'm hazy on the specifics.
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 08:00:04 PM »
OK Major Jan Zumbach  08.1944 Leader 133 Polish Wing
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2010, 08:05:20 PM »
Those are british markings, not polish ;)  The artist was doing some sort of what-if, I guess?


(p.s. we might have it in-game already)
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2010, 08:05:59 PM »
yes just read they flew mkIII`s also this guys info was linked to Stanisław Skalski
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2010, 08:10:53 PM »
That cannot be an accurate profile.
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2010, 08:11:40 PM »
Quote from: Fencer51 on February 14, 2010, 08:10:53 PM
That cannot be an accurate profile.

thought so but, it is striking
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 03:03:17 PM »
Quote from: Kazan_HB on February 14, 2010, 08:00:04 PM
OK Major Jan Zumbach  08.1944 Leader 133 Polish Wing
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Flt Lt Jan Zumbach (303 'Polish' Sqn) with his Mk V, BM144,
(r) Wg Cdr Stefan Witorzenc (OC 1st Polish Fighter Wing)



Pilots of this famous squadron pose with their Sqn.Ldr. Jan Zumbach in front of his Spitfire V at Kirton-in- Lindsey in Oct. 1942.

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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 03:21:11 PM »
Gotta love the 303 Sqdn.

A Question of Honor is an excellent read  :aok
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 04:56:16 PM »
Agreed. Excellent book.
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Re: hey fencer polish 51?
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2010, 09:41:49 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on February 14, 2010, 07:58:14 PM
I'd doubt it's real.

But, if it was, chances are it's post-war. There's a number of profiles and pics of polish markings on non-polish airframes. Yaks, IL2s, etc... All post-war. There was some soviet rule against allowing polish markings on polish aircraft until after 1946 or something. I'm hazy on the specifics.

although mostly true,
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On 11 July 1945 Lt. Gen. Połynin ordered that all national marks on aircraft be changed to Polish chessboards. Up to this time all machines were painted like aircraft of the Soviet Air Force with additional Polish chessboards on the sides of planes (the width of the Polish mark was between 300 mm and 350 mm so it was slightly bigger than marks used by the Polish Air Force in Great Britain).

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_of_the_Polish_Army  
look under transformation..



http://www.boris.elknet.pl/av_hist/index.php?position=0.0.42  

the top photo is of yak9m(foreground) yak9t (background) now of course theses could have been taken after the war.

"W Ludowym Wojsku Polskim używano w okresie kwiecień 1944 - maj 1951 około 24 sztuk samolotów tego typu."

which basically states that- In the Polish peoples army(communist army) from April 1944-may 1951 24 planes were in service.
not literal translation, because it would sound like yoda talking :)

 
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