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Offline Ghosth

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Re: WWI
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2010, 08:36:40 PM »
Did a bit of testing with a squad mate today.

Plane was the Dr1, I had the govenor off, he had it on.
Mine maxed out at 112 mph according to the E6b, he was getting 115.
And it accelerated a smidge faster than mine.

However, mine would go up to 140 mph in a dive without having to touch engine or throttle.
So you have to ask yourself, is the 3mph worth the hassle or not.

There are advantages to both sides.

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Re: WWI
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2010, 09:34:27 PM »
Did a bit of testing with a squad mate today.

Plane was the Dr1, I had the govenor off, he had it on.
Mine maxed out at 112 mph according to the E6b, he was getting 115.
And it accelerated a smidge faster than mine.

However, mine would go up to 140 mph in a dive without having to touch engine or throttle.
So you have to ask yourself, is the 3mph worth the hassle or not.

There are advantages to both sides.
Hummm...you sure you typed that straight Ghosth?  With govenor OFF you got 112 while he got 115 with it ON and it accelerated faster?  According to the notes, this should be the opposite.  Maybe the old dyslexia up acting?
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Re: WWI
« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2010, 10:06:22 PM »
Ghosth did you run it till it blew up?
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Re: WWI
« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2010, 10:51:35 PM »
I got different results ghost. Trimmed for level flight I got 115 IAS ungoverned, can't tell the altitude,  and 106 IAS governed
the engine blew at 151 IAS in a dive. This is the dr1 model.

EDIT: When I used x for level flight it was 110 IAS ungoverned and 106 governed
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Re: WWI
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2010, 06:49:57 AM »
Mace I might have got my tongue twisted.

I had govenor on, maxed at 112, Baumer had it off and maxed at 115.

Both in level autopilot with 50% fuel.

wgmount, you blew the engine with the govenor on or off?

Sik, no I didn't dive it till it blew, didn't have enough alt for that.
But in the Dr1 with the govenor on its very easy to get up to 140 at which point I'd be hearing wings creaking and I'd pull out.

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Re: WWI
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2010, 09:14:31 AM »
governor off the engine blew up at 151
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Re: WWI
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2010, 12:18:54 PM »
Eh, they should remove the governor entirely, IMHO. Just leave an arena message up in the WWI arena explaining the engine management situation for those that are new.
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Re: WWI
« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2010, 12:29:13 PM »
Eh, they should remove the governor entirely, IMHO. Just leave an arena message up in the WWI arena explaining the engine management situation for those that are new.

Meh, just let them find out on their own - the hard way.   :devil
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Re: WWI
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2010, 01:25:07 PM »
   First couple of sorties I ripped my wings off in a dive and didn't know who shot me .  :headscratch:
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Re: WWI
« Reply #39 on: March 25, 2010, 03:21:12 PM »
Meh, just let them find out on their own - the hard way.   :devil

Seriously though, if the governor isn't providing a *decided* disadvantage in performance to offset how much it increases ease of use, I'd rather see it go.
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Re: WWI
« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2010, 08:17:01 PM »
Its really no different than the Combat trim option.

You choose, you want the 3 mph speed penialty, or less running the throttle/engine in a dive.

It is the way it is, that's the way Hitech set it up, and frankly I don't see a problem with it either way.


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Re: WWI
« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2010, 10:56:43 PM »
Its really no different than the Combat trim option.

You choose, you want the 3 mph speed penialty, or less running the throttle/engine in a dive.

It is the way it is, that's the way Hitech set it up, and frankly I don't see a problem with it either way.



1. Combat trim was specifically created to address a difficulty in flying virtual airplanes with small joysticks that doesn't exist when flying real airplanes.

2. Combat trim presents a few decided disadvantages-the nose balloons up when you use flaps, it makes high AoA low speed maneuvers more awkward (the plane tries to "loop"), it purportedly reduces elevator response in WWI airplanes. 3mph speed loss is *not* a decided disadvantage.
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Re: WWI
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2010, 06:37:45 AM »
If you have a problem take it up with HTC, I'm not going to argue with you.