Bustr I agree that it is time we tryed something different, just lose the caps for a month and see what happens. In fact I would add one more item to deal with bad behavior, turn off " kill shooter ". The easier we make it for bad behavior to go on without immediate consequences, the worse it will get. I would be careful using real would features and events to understand this carton world with it's sharp edged rules. Sort of using macro rules to understand micro events,( this almost always leads to wrong conclusions). Having said all that I agree that it is time for AH to loosen up the reigns a bit, we are all not children.