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Offline DrSoya

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Toe Brakes on CH Pro Pedals USB
« on: June 30, 2000, 03:16:00 PM »
I got my CH Pro pedals USB today. I took a shot at setting up toe brakes to left and right brakes. Here is how I did it.

Axis X on the pedals is the left toe brake. Axis Y is the right toe brake. I went into the Joystick setup, clicked on Select Joystick, and bound AH control button 9 to the Pro Pedals X axis, and AH control button 10 to the Pro Pedals Y axis. Of course, in my case buttons 9 and 10 weren't used. Use buttons that aren't used in your setup.

In Stick Mapping, Flight Keys, I set Button 9 to Left Brake and Button 10 to Right Brake.

Even if the X and Y axes are analog, this works. But on takeoff and landing I have to be veeeeeerrry cautious not to press toe brakes even a single millimeter or the brakes will be activated at a veeeeeeerrry unfortunate time.  So I push on the pedals with my heels.

Darn, my gunnery and ACM will be shot to hell for a while until I adjust to pedals.


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Toe Brakes on CH Pro Pedals USB
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2000, 05:19:00 PM »
"Darn, my gunnery and ACM will be shot to hell for a while until I adjust to pedals."

U know it , but feels more real to me now . I tried going back for one flight last weekend . No way !!! Peds the way to go , all around use . But the snap shots are way harder IMO .

Thanks for the info , will pass this on to me mates .

cheers spro  

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2000, 12:09:00 AM »
I followed your instructions and the toe brakes did register.


The problem is that they only lock on fully and remain locked on whenever I push one of the toes. The only way to release them is to hit the same toe brake key on the keyboard.

I did some experimenting offline in the f3 external mode to get a look at things. Maybe you should take a look at it that way. I found if I hit the c or v on the keyboard it produce a small instant toe brake effect, but when I touched either CH Pedal toe it locked that brake in position no matter what I did until I hit the same toe brake key on the keyboard which then seemed to release it.

As a result I found the CH Toe Brake Pedals useless.

Any idea on how to get the pedal toe brakes just to send a keystroke when they are depressed and to release when the pedal is released?

Maybe it's something very simple I have overlooked.

Ranger Bob

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2000, 09:17:00 AM »
rangerbob, if you're using Speedkeys,from CH,map the toe pedal as 'c' or 'v' and make it a macro,then clik the 'hold til release' box . mebbe this will help  
   i have c & v mapped to dot buttons on throttle,this works fine,can use to steer.

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2000, 09:52:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by RangerBob:
The problem is that they only lock on fully and remain locked on whenever I push one of the toes. The only way to release them is to hit the same toe brake key on the keyboard.

Weird. This doesn't happen on my setup. When I release the toe brake pedals, my plane stops breaking. Of course, I have to be careful to make sure both pedals are not pressed forward in the least manner, so on landings and takeoffs I control the rudder by pushing the pedals with my heels.

For me the toe brakes function exactly as the C and V keys do.

I'm not using any software from CH, and I haven't received my Saitek X36 yet (still using my MS SW 3D Pro without the stick twisting).


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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2000, 10:13:00 AM »
I dont' have any Speedkeys software or whatever from CH. These USB Prop Pedals didn't come with anything like that. I don't use the other CH stuff, because they don't have a combination USB Throttle and Stick out yet.

I'm using the Saitek USB Throttle and Stick along with CH USB Pro Pedals. They work great, but I can't get this toe brake thing to work right.

Thanks,

Ranger Bob

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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2000, 03:08:00 PM »
Well after trying it offline for a while, I'm not sure it's a good idea. Taking off with that configuration is pretty dangerous.  

Maybe we'd better wait for ah support for analog brakes, and map the brakes to joystick buttons.


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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2000, 09:25:00 AM »
I think you're right DrSoya. I noticed that even if I could get working correctly it would be dangerous to accidentally push on the toe brake while steering with the rudder on landing or takeoff.

It's a minor loss compared to the major gain of flying, and landing, with these excellent pedals. Besides, most of the other pedals on the market don't have toe brakes anyway.

Ranger Bob