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Offline Puma44

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Re: Explanation to what i saw
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2011, 01:00:40 AM »
The ava used to be a great place to fly. I started flying around 2002 in there. Some years ago it went into decay. My only goal is to give the best fight i can. The settings dont bother me at all. I dont mind you and your squad flying together using wingman tactics. 1 v 1 great. 2 v1 i still had a good time. 3 v1 well hey maybe lone picker. 4 v 1 wth. 5 v1 ok thats just crazy. What I dont get is how is that fun for you? With icons off that is an impossible situation. I mean c'mon.. Do you want a good fight or do you just want the kill? If you just want to kill relinquish the ava and go to the da.

Jamusta,

I find that for the majority of the time the AvA crowd tends to stay pretty much in a 1v1 or 2v1 mindset.  The times that I've seen the 1vMany is when new folks come in from the MAs and bring gang mentality with them.  I, for one, won't jump into a 1v1 or v2 unless invited or it looks like someone is about to get hammered and doesn't have any mutual support.  I thing if you stick with the AvA for a while, you'll see the norm vs the occasional gang tactics (which really aren't tactics at all...... more akin to a bunch of chickens jumping on the same June bug).  :salute



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Re: Explanation to what i saw
« Reply #31 on: January 28, 2011, 01:25:28 AM »
Jamusta,

I am as guilty as anyone.  I will step up and admit that when I am working well with a group of wingmen, against multiple targets I am at the height of my online enjoyment.  I blame Puma, (JUST KIDDING).

It is a thing of beauty to see Puma and Jappa do there thing.  Flip back a few months and look at some of their screen shots, you will see how tight they fly.  

What I can say, is that sometimes you do get to be the windshield.  

Another suggestion, try and convince your fellow countrymen to "FLY SMART".   Check the dar, dots are made apparent for a reason in the arena.  If you have 3 enemy cons grouped in a sector, circle your wagons.   What I see time after time, is even numbers on the roster, and one country getting picked off one at a time.  What begins even, will quickly end heavily outnumbered.  I try and communicate my intentions to my countrymen, "going left..... he's past me and going up".  "I have two cons my high 2 oclock, I am extending left".  

With this kind of communication, and wingmen that are trying to clear your six and set up shots for you, it becomes a quick paced furball, with the results going in favor of the most innovative pilots not necessarily the best pilots or aircraft.

For example landing kills in Razorbacks, P40s, and P39 Cobras against higher performance aircraft is something that adds that historical feel to the arena.  In the Main Arena, they tried to bring in Early and Mid war aircraft only.  The problem is (I know Jimson will back me on this one), flying a F4F 4 against another F4F 4 has no tactical advantage, and really doesn't show these birds in the light in which they operated.  

Chilli,

Good comments!  Thanks for the acknowledgement.  When Jappa got me hooked on this addiction, he wanted to learn tactical and close formation flying.  We read everything we could get our hands on and started practicing a lot and then practiced even more.  It took quite awhile to get it down pat and really make it work.  To achieve this level of immersion takes comment and dedication.  The payoff is a lot of fun and a sense of accomplishment vs ganging up 5v1 and pounding a guy in the dirt (which most everybody will agree doesn't require much skill and is no fun for the "1").

As has been mentioned numerous times before, it's up to how each of use wants to spend our $14.95 a month and what we want to get out of it.  

Like you so astutely put it, fly smart (and I'll add sneaky here).  Use all the assets available (other aircraft, terrain, sun, sky conditions, etc) to close on your opponent and turn on the guns. By the way, you guys watch out for this Jamusta guy, he's got a laser range finder on that 109 and only takes one or two taters to smack ya in the back O the head.  :O.  :salute



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Re: Explanation to what i saw
« Reply #32 on: January 28, 2011, 05:16:56 AM »
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Re: Explanation to what i saw
« Reply #33 on: January 28, 2011, 06:45:34 AM »

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Re: Explanation to what i saw
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2011, 07:19:13 AM »
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Re: Explanation to what i saw
« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2011, 07:23:52 AM »
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Re: Explanation to what i saw
« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2011, 07:49:11 AM »
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Re: Explanation to what i saw
« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2011, 07:50:26 AM »
I'll just throw this out there....

Some times the AvA is cool, other times its dweeby
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1) I've been there and had great fights against ltCap1 and several others where the fights were good clean fun.  :salute cap, you were flying that p39 much better than I could.

2) I've also been there when there was 2 people, who would make a point to fly spit 16s and only fight when they could ho & gang.  One would engage while the the other would making hoing passes at you, then they would cheer as if they accomplished something great. Mind you there were only 3 people there me and 2 others. To their credit, I was the only target.

It all comes down to whom is in the AvA. If there are people who are fun to play against, the AvA is great, if there are not its not. Because of the lower numbers, unlike the MA, you can't exert as much discretion on who you fight.



thank ya sir!! i appreciate that......the "D" is kinda hard....underpowered and runs outta steam fast.....the "Q".......i likey,. :devil
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