Author Topic: f4u brutal stall?  (Read 3031 times)

Offline EskimoJoe

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4831
Re: f4u brutal stall?
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2011, 04:50:58 AM »
Trimming elevator all the way up (IE:Elevators making you go 'up') will help
you return to level flight (or avoid the ground) during compression in a dive,
provided you have enough altitutde.
Put a +1 on your geekness atribute  :aok

Offline mtnman

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2438
Re: f4u brutal stall?
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2011, 09:52:06 AM »
I leave the roll alone. I do trim the pitch and have been experimenting with the rudders. No conclusive results yet.

You'll probably get a lot more bang for your buck if you drop the rudder trim, and trim for aileron instead.  I do all three, but 99% of the time rudder is "close enough" so I don't monkey with it.  If you ignore aileron and trim for rudder instead, you're probably not trimming very cleanly, and are trimming for a straight/level "skid" which is burning E.
MtnMan

"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not". Thomas Jefferson

Offline mtnman

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2438
Re: f4u brutal stall?
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2011, 10:02:11 AM »
Trimming elevator all the way up (IE:Elevators making you go 'up') will help
you return to level flight (or avoid the ground) during compression in a dive,
provided you have enough altitutde.

This is kind of true, but not for the reasons most believe. 

In a high-speed dive, the CT is actually going to trim your elevators full down.  The problem when you try to pull out is that even when you fully deflect the stick, you're still fighting all that down trim, so you're not getting full up deflection.  It's a perfect example of a situation where CT is fighting you, and where you'd be better off with manual trim...

As soon as you start feeding in up trim, you'll start pulling out of your dive.  But you'll be out of your dive before you even reach "neutral" trim, let alone "full up" trim (for the most part).  Going to full-up trim would be equally as bad in most situations as full-down, even though it kept you alive momentarily.  In this example, once you've pulled out of your dive you'll probably want to zoom climb or extend, and you'll need to fight that full-up trim to do so...

The point of manually trimming is to minimize the amount of fighting the plane you need to do, so you can put that effort into fighting your opponents.
MtnMan

"Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not". Thomas Jefferson