luft upgrade FW 190 a-8 to a9.......not d-9 and a-5 to a-6 and no G

[alpini13]

im kinda confused as to what planes are added at hitec..example..we are getting a new japanese zero fighter,instead of the J2M3..what we also could use is the fw 190 A-9,which was an upgrade to the A series A-8.the a-9 was built in quantity(about 900) saw combat.and has the same basic gun package as the a-8. the upgrade was additional armoured front glass sections(3),more front armour plate,rear armour plate for pilot.more armour plate for radiator and nose.this added weight,this was offset by a more powerful engine.this was designed to take more punishment when attacking bombers than the a-8. i think this is important as we have the long nose d-9 of which less than 700 were built and we have the ta-152 of which less than 200 were built.  Additionally there is no G model fw 190 in the game..however a better canddate might be the A-6 or proper loadout for the A-5, more specifically both the a-5 and a-6 were equipped with two drop tanks and a 500kg bomb for long range jabo.the a-5 had small batches of R-kits ,the a-6 larger batches of R-kits such as an extra 4 x 20mm cannon, or 2 x 30mm cannon,or 2 x 20mm cannon in addition to normal armament, the a-6 also had 4 mg/151 20mm cannon std with more ammo in stead of the  2 mg/151 20mm and 2 mg/ff 20mm cannon on the A-5,better guns on the a-6.

[Plazus]

Sentences and paragraphs please. Where are your sources and please cite them.

[Karnak]

Variants are much easier to add than new types, thus the A6M3 over the J2M.

Further, while more Fw190 variants would be nice, there is no need to lose any of the existing models to accommodate them.

I'd like to see an Fw190 from 1941 or 1942 added to the game as well.

[Krusty]

I think you're confusing the role of the A-9 with the A-8 Sturmbocks. What you seem to be describing is the sturmbock variant of bomber hunter. The A-9 did have a little more armor over the oil ring, and supposedly a 2000hp engine, BUT this is counting in the MW50. MW50 was rare and scarce and took a while to be implemented. It was being diverted to 190Ds, 109Gs and 109Ks, etc. The Fw190A8 was also supposed to have MW50 but did not have much available. That is why we have the AUX tank in-game. It's where the MW50 normally was stored, but they used it for more gas instead.

The A-9 saw limited use at the end of the war. It was being replaced by better faster models.

As far as Aces High goes, without the MW50 it would most likely be just like our A-8 model.


Or, was this just a request for MW50 on the A-8?

[alpini13]

as for citing info for this, check out heinz j nowarra's fw 190 book,or even the official luft records up to october 1943...very accurate up til then...as for paragraphs and such...i had to squish the whole thing in as i ran out of room...maybe i'll two wishlists request next time,lol.
   i am just noting that we have so many spit variants and p-47 variants(even if only 130 p47m were made) but need more fw 190 stuff,and loadouts.   and lets not get started on big tail bf 109 g variants that we dont have,lol

[Guppy35]

<insert face palm here>

[Karnak]

fyi, we have one more Spitfire than we do Bf109s, and that is due to the Seafire.  Could we use some more Bf109 models? Yes, but I can also name some Spitfire models that we could use.  If I were to combine the list of Spitfires and Bf109s we don't have and pick the top two most needed we'd get one Bf109, Bf109G-6/AS, and one Spitfire, Seafire Mk III.  It is completely understandable that there are as many of those two fighters in the game as there are.  They were frontline fighters for their respective nations from the start to the end of the war, the final dogfight of WWII being between Seafire Mk IIIs and A6M5s.

Could we use some more Fw190s?  Yes, but they aren't being disadvantaged by the likes of the P-47 and P-38.  We could use another P-47, an early one.  We could also use another P-38.

7 Spitfires
6 Bf109s
5 F4Us
5 Fw190s
5 P-47s
3 A6Ms
3 Hurricanes
3 P-38s
2 A-20/Bostons
2 B-25s
2 Bf110s
2 C.20Xs
2 F4Fs
2 Lavochkins
2 Mosquitos
2 P-39s
2 P-40s
2 P-51s
2 Yak 9s


The Germans do not seem particularly singled out to be ignored on that list.  One that I would like to see more of is the Ju88.

[oakranger]

fyi, we have one more Spitfire than we do Bf109s, and that is due to the Seafire.  Could we use some more Bf109 models? Yes, but I can also name some Spitfire models that we could use.  If I were to combine the list of Spitfires and Bf109s we don't have and pick the top two most needed we'd get one Bf109, Bf109G-6/AS, and one Spitfire, Seafire Mk III.  It is completely understandable that there are as many of those two fighters in the game as there are.  They were frontline fighters for their respective nations from the start to the end of the war, the final dogfight of WWII being between Seafire Mk IIIs and A6M5s.

Could we use some more Fw190s?  Yes, but they aren't being disadvantaged by the likes of the P-47 and P-38.  We could use another P-47, an early one.  We could also use another P-38.

7 Spitfires
6 Bf109s
5 F4Us
5 Fw190s
5 P-47s
3 A6Ms
3 Hurricanes
3 P-38s
2 A-20/Bostons
2 B-25s
2 Bf110s
2 C.20Xs
2 F4Fs
2 Lavochkins
2 Mosquitos
2 P-39s
2 P-40s
2 P-51s
2 Yak 9s


The Germans do not seem particularly singled out to be ignored on that list.  One that I would like to see more of is the Ju88.

Are you thinking of P-47D-20 or 23?

[Karnak]

P-47C or P-47D-5.

[Krusty]

"just because there are so many spit variants" doesn't even enter into the equation mate. The A-9 certainly wasn't in use in october of 1943, either. It was a late '44 bird.

[LLogann]

Very little of your post makes sense, and most is just down right wrong.  Krusty points out your error with the A series 190.... And for some reason I can't help but think you confuse the 190 w/ the 109.  We have a 190 G?  We are getting a "new" zero?  

im kinda confused as to what planes are added at hitec..example..we are getting a REMODELED japanese zero fighter,instead of the J2M3..what we also could use is the fw 190 A-9,which was an upgrade to the A series A-8.the a-9 was built in quantity(about 900) saw combat.and has the same basic gun package as the a-8. the upgrade was additional armoured front glass sections(3),more front armour plate,rear armour plate for pilot.more armour plate for radiator and nose.this added weight,this was offset by a more powerful engine.this was designed to take more punishment when attacking bombers than the a-8. i think this is important as we have the long nose d-9 of which less than 700 were built and we have the ta-152 of which less than 200 were built.  Additionally there is no G model fw 190 in the game..however a better canddate might be the A-6 or proper loadout for the A-5, more specifically both the a-5 and a-6 were equipped with two drop tanks and a 500kg bomb for long range jabo.the a-5 had small batches of R-kits ,the a-6 larger batches of R-kits such as an extra 4 x 20mm cannon, or 2 x 30mm cannon,or 2 x 20mm cannon in addition to normal armament, the a-6 also had 4 mg/151 20mm cannon std with more ammo in stead of the  2 mg/151 20mm and 2 mg/ff 20mm cannon on the A-5,better guns on the a-6.

EDIT:  Thanks pigs.... I guess I never looked too close at the front page.   

[Pigslilspaz]

Very little of your post makes sense, and most is just down right wrong.  Krusty points out your error with the A series 190.... And for some reason I can't help but think you confuse the 190 w/ the 109.  We have a 190 G?  We are getting a "new" zero? 

Along with the A6M2 remodel, we are receiving the A6M3 Model 32

[oakranger]

P-47C or P-47D-5.

Ok, that early.   

[MachFly]

as for citing info for this, check out heinz j nowarra's fw 190 book,or even the official luft records up to october 1943...very accurate up til then...as for paragraphs and such...i had to squish the whole thing in as i ran out of room...maybe i'll two wishlists request next time,lol.
   i am just noting that we have so many spit variants and p-47 variants(even if only 130 p47m were made) but need more fw 190 stuff,and loadouts.   and lets not get started on big tail bf 109 g variants that we dont have,lol

So are you saying that we need a new 190 because we have many Spitfires and P-47s or is there another reason?

[Shifty]

I'd like to see an Fw190 from 1941 or 1942 added to the game as well.

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