F4U-1 Wing Breakage

[curry1]

I broke a wing o ff the F4U-1A two days ago.  Surprised me.  Always does lol hardly ever happens that I don't even worry about it.

[Gr8pape]

I've broken many a F4U's wings before; some .50 cal does the job quite nicely. 

 

[Daddkev]

  I can auger or brake any plane in less than 1 minute! 

[MK-84]

I havent done any tests to see if things are different between F4U's but snapping the wings is easy to recreate, it just requires the right conditions.

You have to go fast enough that you do not enter an accelerated stall, and you have to not be going so fast that your controls start to become sluggish.

I think somewhere around 450-500 works, crank the stick back hard and there go the wings. 

*note  if you have your damping set to anything but 0 this may affect your results as it delays your flight inputs.

As for whether this affects one F4U other the other, I have not personally noticed a difference at all.  Ordinance will make a drastic change, perhaps that was  being carried more often than not in the other models?

[Noah17]

I use 0 damping on the stick.

I haven't had the chance to go recreate it offline yet but, I've flown AH and the F4U's for almost 3 years now and, the only time it seems to happen is on the -1.

Next time I'll save the film.

[curry1]

Could be because the -1 is more turny than the other models.  So perhaps it can over-stress its wings easier.

[jd]

I havnt figured out how to post the film yet but I broke my wing off an f4u1 when I flew through a debris field after sneaking up on a TBM, however I landed safely with minimal effort.

[Changeup]

I compressed my 38j yesterday and was stuck at 499 while working my way out of it.  A D9 followed me down and hit 599 before pulling out.  A K4 hit 609 following me and did not pull out.

I've never felt that slow compressing before 

Hmmmm, my KI compresses at 267.....lol, and I never recover.

[Getback]

It may be your stick settings. If you also black out often then you may want to change them.

[FLS]

Other planes, if you're hauling back on the stick in the same way, when it comes out of compression, there's a distinct 'snap' where it's like the elevator and wings suddenly gain purchase over a period of about a tenth of a second, and WHAM you've pegged the G meter.  I believe the 109K4's a good example of this.  If you're over a certain speed, when it crosses that threshold, if you don't see it happening and ease off the stick it's real easy to pull the wings off.

Wiley.

Wiley on the 109K it sounds like you're pulling to the AOA where the slats come out.

[Wiley]

Wiley on the 109K it sounds like you're pulling to the AOA where the slats come out.

Is that possible at just below compression speed?  I turned the slat noise down because frankly it bugged me.

I don't spend as much time watching my airspeed as I perhaps should, but I'd ballpark my indicated above 300 when I notice it.

Not disagreeing, trying to understand.


Wiley.

[FLS]

Slats on the 109s deploy at a specific AOA regardless of speed.

[Wiley]

Slats on the 109s deploy at a specific AOA regardless of speed.

Hmp.  Learned my thing for the day.  I'll look for it.

Wiley.