T28E1

[lyric1]

Why? We need something else with 20mm's for MW before another 37mm gun, which is harder to use for most. SdKfz 251/15 would be better, and the /21 would be fantastic, if its EW (not entirely sure)

Allied.

[Tank-Ace]

So allies with their ew vehicle for the MA's and scenarios need a MW vehicle, while the axis get nothing pre 1944?

In the MA's, nationality is irrelevant. And I'm the special events, I'd say giving the Germans some ew and mw AA that isn't OP as hell would do more to balance things than giving the allies a crappier ostwind.

[lyric1]

So allies with their ew vehicle for the MA's and scenarios need a MW vehicle, while the axis get nothing pre 1944?

In the MA's, nationality is irrelevant. And I'm the special events, I'd say giving the Germans some ew and mw AA that isn't OP as hell would do more to balance things than giving the allies a crappier ostwind.

Crappier Ostwind?
Did you read the link?
They had a better kill to death than the Ostwind.
Not to mention a 60mph AAA gun.
I do agree with some other early war & mid war AAA German platforms though.
Ostwind & Wirbelwind both are in mid war now what more would you need though?

[Tank-Ace]

It also wasn't operating against air superiority, and later air supremacy. It also had a more ew and mw aircraft to shoot at. It was shooting at stukas and the like, for Gods sake. It's KTD had more to do with circumstances than inherent quality.

And it's 66mph and .50'sare damn near the only advantages. 37mm is just too hard for most to use reliably. Just look at the Ostwind vs the Wirbelwind usage.

[tuton25]

Not really, the T19 105mm HMC only carried 8 rounds without an ammo carrier.  Worthy to note, they also used AP rounds so they should have the ordnance option of limited AP rounds.

ack-ack

Maybe give it a trailer and if you hit it you loose the extra ammo....

[matt]

+1

[lyric1]

It also wasn't operating against air superiority, and later air supremacy. It also had a more ew and mw aircraft to shoot at. It was shooting at stukas and the like, for Gods sake. It's KTD had more to do with circumstances than inherent quality.

And it's 66mph and .50'sare damn near the only advantages. 37mm is just too hard for most to use reliably. Just look at the Ostwind vs the Wirbelwind usage.

I have more luck with the Ostwind myself.
Remember this in real life the Germans changed to the Ostwind because it was a better killer than the Wirbelwind. Sounds like you just need to practice more with the 37MM.

[Tank-Ace]

I have more luck with the Ostwind myself.
Remember this in real life the Germans changed to the Ostwind because it was a better killer than the Wirbelwind. Sounds like you just need to practice more with the 37MM.

I'm better in the ostwind as well. But the fact is that most people are not.

[Rino]

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