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Offline olds442

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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2013, 07:52:03 AM »
That is becaue your post rarely require invitation.  :D

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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2013, 09:02:16 AM »
Getting shot down in a head-on attack or by a bounce over and over can be frustrating, I reckon.
it's the clowns in perk planes that think they have accomplished something when they dive down from a 5000ft alt advantage to pick someone flying a 30 eny plane in a fight with 2 or 3 of their buddies. the real winners are the spixteen dweebs and the jet turds that do the picking and pat themselves on the back for being great.
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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2013, 09:09:26 AM »
262 picks..I don't mind..I mean what else are they going to do? I'll up a 262 every once in a while for a change of pace and just have a blast zooming through furballs or the long awaited NOE lanc missions.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2013, 09:43:31 AM »
Hi all...yeah, been a while. Thinking on a computer build that might allow me to get back in the game; done that before though.

Started reading the board again to see how the game was going and if it was worth a build that will run a significant amount of money. Still have all the controls sitting in a dusty box though.

Anyway...from what I've been reading here......  Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I offer you this ancient commentary on the game, merely as perspective, not to start arguments.

Read the story Dux posted August 3, 2001 and see how many of the things that people don't like today were present back in 2001. Even before that, really. This is just the earliest one I could quickly find. It's a good story of a fight by Dux but note his comments on gameplay at the beginning and the comment of the opponent at the end.  This one pretty much has it all. The comments by others in the thread might be enlightening as well; good pilots leaving the game, etc.

Heard any of this before? I think maybe so. There are probably similar ones even earlier. Point is, the things complained about now, today, are not new. We heard this stuff when the game was very, very young.

Yet the game goes on.

Perspective.  Even an old codger such as myself continues to hear the siren call of online cartoon air combat about two decades after I first got whacked in SVGA Air Warrior (1993).

The game goes on. Enjoy it.

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Last night I'm flying around in a Spitfire looking for some fun. I spot a con upping out of 24, its a 109. Oh boy, historic matchup. I let him take off (coulda vulched, ack was down). He leaves the airfield vicinity, coming toward me, and dives into a cavern, I dive after him. Our noses pass (no HO), I reverse up into a loop and start pursuit. He's slowly pulling away, but I chase. He starts grabbing alt... no way I can climb with him, so I keep my speed and stay low. He extends until he's about 4.0k away and starts heading back to me. I position myself until he's diving in from my 8 o'clock, I break left into his dive and evade him, he zooms back up to his perch. I stay in the canyons because I know he'll have to get low and slow to get me there. He BnZ's on me, I evade... this goes on for a good ten mnutes.

   At this point I'm thinking... this is great, this is why I play this game. A well-matched set of planes, a well-matched couple of pilots, some great terrain to fly in (I love Mindanao), a historic opponent (109 vs Spit) and not the usual N1Ks or LA7s that I see EVERYWHERE, no heroes swooping in stealing kills while the others are busy. A dogfight that was based on tactics and strategy, not uber UFO gamey dweeb or gangbang tactics. This fight was the most satisfying that I've had in a long time.

   I look at my fuel gauge... rats! 1/8 left, time to rtb. So as the 109 is in the middle of one of his extensions, I reluctantly break off and head for home. I'm smiling... I type into the radio "<S!> 109 @ 24. great fight. I'm bingo. RTB."

Silence.

Oh well, I'm heading for home, about halfway there. The whole time I'm keeping an eye on the 109, and see that he's now chasing me again, slowly catching up. I am verrrry low on fuel so I get as near to home as I can before he dives in on me. I dive into a canyon and break into his dive, and for the next 3 minutes we're having the same great fight again, but this time it's getting tighter, getting closer, my undersides scraping the canyon walls. Finally I get him at the top of a loop... I'm under him, just about stalling... I get a good burst into his tail and see his elevators come off. As I'm hanging on my prop, my engine sputters to a stop, and as I flop over to begin my glide in, I see his chute pop open. I'm just beaming at this point. What fun that was!

In white text in the buffer, private message comes in...

"Stupid Spitfires ruin this stupid game..."

"I can't fight in the canyons against a Spit that can turn on a stupid dime at 1 mph..."

As my Spit brakes precariously to a halt in one of the canyon valleys, I give the guy another chance, and send him a great big sloppy <S!> over the open channel. This time I know his name.

back at me on private channel..
"blah blah stupid blah blah..."

I send him my own private message.
"So I guess I'm just gonna have to take that as a Salute then, huh?"

Silence.

I logged off in disgust.

Since when is it all about winning? Is it score-whoring, stats, perks, ranks, etc., that brings this attitude out of people? Is it some kind of "my plane has a top speed 2.375 kts faster than his, therefore I should win all the time" stat-quoting, bean-counting mentality? Just what the hell is it that people expect from this game?

Or is it me? Am I just getting burnt out?
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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2013, 10:26:15 AM »
Don't mistake me for running :old:
I'm simply try to bait you to fight my fight, low alt sciccors or an overshoot :t
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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2013, 12:14:37 PM »
Aww the overshoot... I'm learning it's a double edged sword....  :bhead   

There are times when it works perfectly and the bad guy pops in front of my sights... Then there are times when I'm waiting for him to appear only to see the tower.... :old:

... I'll admit that I've used profanity a little louder than my cat appreciates, but who hasn't in this game!? It's part of the game, the uber-highs of making that crazy move to get the kill as well as the low's of getting blasted by the same pilot/tanker 3-4 times before getting your SA figured out...

I'll HO you, I'll Vultch you, Heck.. I'll even bait you into getting to close to my B-17's with 999000....  :devil   The only thing I actually feel stupid about is collisions.... It's one thing to "Head On" someone, it's another entirely to make contact in performing a Head On.....  I want to shoot someone out of their aircraft, not pile into them....


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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2013, 12:33:39 PM »
I just don't see any real difference over the 4 years I've been playing, except for the rise of GV-ing.  :salute
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« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2013, 04:19:28 PM »

The gameplay has changed dramatically according to those in the other thread and it turns out that it isn't for the better. Its gone down to three things; picking, running and lastly HOing. All of which have started to show in increasing regularity. If this continues eventually all of the guys and stick around for a fight will leave and those that just HO, run and pick are going to dominate the game.


10 years ago if you had asked this question, you would have gotten the same answers.  If you had asked this question in WB 15 years ago, you would have gotten the same answers.  If you had asked this question 20 years ago in AW, you would have gotten the same answers.  I'm sure those were also common complaints in FA.  We tend to look back at the years with rose tinted glasses.

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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2013, 04:54:19 PM »
it's the clowns in perk planes that think they have accomplished something when they dive down from a 5000ft alt advantage to pick someone flying a 30 eny plane in a fight with 2 or 3 of their buddies. the real winners are the spixteen dweebs and the jet turds that do the picking and pat themselves on the back for being great.

They will come down.  They always come down.  Reverse um
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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2013, 09:30:14 PM »
Hi all...yeah, been a while. Thinking on a computer build that might allow me to get back in the game; done that before though.

Started reading the board again to see how the game was going and if it was worth a build that will run a significant amount of money. Still have all the controls sitting in a dusty box though.

Anyway...from what I've been reading here......  Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I offer you this ancient commentary on the game, merely as perspective, not to start arguments.

Read the story Dux posted August 3, 2001 and see how many of the things that people don't like today were present back in 2001. Even before that, really. This is just the earliest one I could quickly find. It's a good story of a fight by Dux but note his comments on gameplay at the beginning and the comment of the opponent at the end.  This one pretty much has it all. The comments by others in the thread might be enlightening as well; good pilots leaving the game, etc.

Heard any of this before? I think maybe so. There are probably similar ones even earlier. Point is, the things complained about now, today, are not new. We heard this stuff when the game was very, very young.

Yet the game goes on.

Perspective.  Even an old codger such as myself continues to hear the siren call of online cartoon air combat about two decades after I first got whacked in SVGA Air Warrior (1993).

The game goes on. Enjoy it.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,5752.msg76701.html#msg76701


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« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2013, 09:31:30 PM »
Hiya Dace.. Yep, long time.

Good to see some I still recognize.  <S>
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« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2013, 09:41:57 PM »
Flown "Quitch" yet Toad?  :)
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« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2013, 10:06:19 PM »
To be truthful Guppy...I don't remember. Memory is the second thing to go, eh?

I still really appreciate that it is in here.

He's still alive; 93 in December. His memory is fading pretty severely now but there are flashes. I am just happy he still knows who I am and we can still talk. I do remember showing it to him on his computer but of course the game wouldn't run on that one.

He still has that BEAUTIFUL model of Quitch that Nuke made for him and it's in good shape. I think I posted pics in here some time ago but they are just blue question marks now.

Good to see another of the old guys too. Thanks for asking!
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Re: Gameplay And Such.
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2013, 11:51:02 PM »
I don't even fire the game up much anymore really. . .

I tried flying planes that were harder to fly, that just got boring. . .Dweebs just run from your EW planes. . .

Tried score turding, that was no fun because Bruv , or 1skott (shade whoever he may be) wasn't doing it. . .I was competing with Squid, Limbo, and Zombee. . .Once I did bomber score I pretty much set myself for #1 the rest of the tour unless Bruv takes it. . .

I even tried mission leading, and it was stupid. Hordes are lame.

Dueling Arena = Boring
Mid War = Boring
Early War = Extinct

The game has declined due to the fact everyone is scared to lose their silly little cartoon life.
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