109's dropping bombs on US bomber formations????

[Delirium]

It is a question about character. If someone can spearhead the Nazi party in Germany 11 years after the concentration camps and extermination were made public, I'd say that person has an agenda. That horrific agenda makes their statements subject to skepticism, if not makes the data unreliable to begin with.

GSholz, we have had discussions like this in the past. Don't continue to defend the actions of this man who tried to mainstream the Nazi party in 1956.

[GScholz]

I'm not "defending" the actions of anyone. The fact that the nazis committed horrible evil acts, in our point of view, does not mean the nazis though of themselves as evil. The nazis thought they were doing the right thing. They thought they were the righteous. Same with the communists and any other political or religious belief system that is responsible for committing what we consider evil acts. Was Custer a liar or an untrustworthy person because he committed those atrocious acts against the native Americans? Clearly he was doing what he though was right, and what the American people (at least the fair-skinned ones) thought was right at the time.

[GScholz]

In fact, I would more question the integrity, as far as lying goes, of all those Germans who after the war denied being nazis.

[phatzo]

Never fly under Flossy in a Scenario. Just sayin... 

Or behind SD67

[Delirium]

The fact that the nazis committed horrible evil acts, in our point of view, does not mean the nazis though of themselves as evil. The nazis thought they were doing the right thing. They thought they were the righteous.

Even after the war with the Socialist Reich Party?

If you believe your comment above is still valid, then I won't post any more in this thread.

[GScholz]

It makes him a German supremacist and an "amazinhunk" as this BBS translates the popular derogatory term... but not a liar.

There are people even today that believe in national socialism, communism, and all sorts of political and religious extremism, regardless of what has happened in the past.

That doesn't make them liars.

Anyways, this is getting very off topic and into rule-violation territory. So that's it.

[Oldman731]

In fact, I would more question the integrity, as far as lying goes, of all those Germans who after the war denied being nazis.

Not surprisingly, so do I.  Gee, there sure were a lot of them, though.

I've always had fair confidence in Knocke's account.  Not so with Willi Heilman, whose similar book was full of lies.

- oldman

[GScholz]

I haven't read his books... Though now it seems I don't need to.