Author Topic: For you Tomcat lovers  (Read 1186 times)

Offline DaveBB

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2014, 11:23:25 AM »
I highly recommend the book "Black Aces High".  It is about F-14s in combat during the 1999? Serbian Air War.  While the F-14 was far more capable than the F/A-18, nearly every single carrier launch of the F-14 resulted in a component being broken.  Most of the time this was not a mission critical system.  Sometimes it was.  Some F-14s ended up needing 50! hours of maintenance for every hour of flight time.  The key assets the F-14 brought to the fight were (1)range/endurance (2)sniper pod (3)a vast array of weapons.  F-14s actually attacked a Mig airfield during the conflict, dropping specialized runway busting bombs (not durandals, some navy version).  And of course there was the famous "Sambush", where SAM sites ambushed a flight of F-14s.  The critical factor in surviving that incident was energy.  The F-14s had to fly at full burner to run the missiles out of energy.  They succeeded and had enough fuel to get to the tankers.  F/A-18s probably wouldn't have had enough fuel.

Anyhow, check out the book. 
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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2014, 03:17:05 PM »
All flaps. It had no ailerons at all. It used stabilators, aka tailerons, which were assisted by the wing spoilers at slower speeds for roll.

Umm, no, they were much more capable at the mission they were developed for than hornets and I believe more versatile overall than most gave them credit for. But yes, they were expensive and like many things Congress screws with, had issues.

I will always miss seeing them in the air.

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They cost 50 man hours of maintenance for every hour in the air. The F18SH costs 5 to 10. What good is a platform if it isnt flight ready? The SH has an RCS of 6 to 7x less then the 14, depending. Of course there are things the TC can do better. More Load, greater range, more speed.

But the threat environment has changed. No modern navy can reproduce the threat the Soviet Navy could at the height of the Cold War with their maritime strike bombers, ASM's, and ASM boats. Modern defense systems like the SM aboard Aegis platforms have proven effective against not only Ballistic missiles but also over the Horizon super sonic cruise missiles in testing. Coming down the pipe are rail guns, Lasers, stealth, and unheard of computing power and power generation.

The lack of range of the SH has been mitigated by its reduced RCS, long range extremely accurate stand off missiles, and before long.. The F35.

Naw, she was a great bird and will forever be a symbol of the Free World making a stand. A marvel for its time. But the decision to bench the TomCat was the right one. I'll never forget the Libyans getting their lesson that the free world wasnt playing anymore. I think the Soviet Maritime strike Bomber force would have had a very bad time with the F14s. Apparently they believed it too.  :salute
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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2014, 09:56:55 PM »
Get ready to see A10s on posts too  :cry
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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2014, 04:22:15 AM »
Get ready to see A10s on posts too  :cry

Im still trying to figure out the logic behind that one.
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Offline mthrockmor

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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2014, 10:28:12 AM »
I highly recommend the book "Black Aces High".  It is about F-14s in combat during the 1999? Serbian Air War. 

Anyhow, check out the book. 

Just bought it on Amazon for $0.01 with $3.99 shipping. Sounds like a good read. Thanks for the heads up
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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2014, 09:00:58 PM »
Get ready to see A10s on posts too  :cry
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Re: For you Tomcat lovers
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2014, 07:41:14 PM »
Just bought it on Amazon for $0.01 with $3.99 shipping. Sounds like a good read. Thanks for the heads up
I splurged and bought one for $0.16 :D