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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #45 on: September 15, 2016, 08:41:56 PM »
15% is not a vast majority

German POW in Russia: 2 388 443
Released: 2 031 743 
Died in captivity: 356 700

Out of the 91,000 Germans taken prisoner at Stalingrad, approximately only 6,000 survived to be repatriated to Germany.  The treatment of PoWs by both the Germans and Soviets was atrocious and barbaric.
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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2016, 09:00:47 PM »
But how many would have survived had the Soviets released the German POW's in a timely manner?

I don't know. Most germans captured in Stalingrad battle really died before the end of the war (due to quite obvious reasons). But this is a small part of a total number of POWs. Most were taken in 1944-1945 and survived. That is for sure.




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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2016, 10:24:39 PM »
There is no excuse for holding POW's for 10 years after the end of hostilities. This was the last atrocity in a war filled with far too many, committed by every participant. All are inexcusable acts and none were "deserved". Period.
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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2016, 01:47:17 AM »
dont understand this logic?

If you find someone in your house stealing your things would you sit them down and have a nice talk?

Maybe this type of thinking is why everything has gone to kak?


They bombed the UK they BOMBED the UK and they got it right back

German prisoners were savages and only had themselves to blame for not being good enough to win the war.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were atrocities then or was it different because they bombed Pearl harbour?

Or those Japanese death marches with allied POWs ?

Which side are you on? :old:

Have I violated your safe spaces :old:





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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2016, 10:01:45 AM »
now now zack if philosophy was that easy we would have nothing to talk about.

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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2016, 12:06:51 PM »
If liberal rich people were not virtue signalling each other and stealing my money it would not be that easy would it.

We will see next time the Germans start  :old:

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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2016, 12:23:19 PM »
If liberal rich people were not virtue signalling each other and stealing my money it would not be that easy would it.

We will see next time the Germans start  :old:

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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2016, 03:38:03 PM »
All we can have in the UK is blunt spoons the elites have armed body guards
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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2016, 07:29:31 AM »
as devil advocate, its not the best feeling when every nut job has a gun, emphasis on nut job.  I hear a nut job yelling and my ears perk and head ducks.  not that im afraid of getting shot but because i become aware that the situation is volatile and any nut job can have a gun.

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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2016, 08:32:36 AM »
All we can have in the UK is blunt spoons the elites have armed body guards

You should move to Italy

http://metro.co.uk/2016/09/08/italy-says-masturbation-in-public-is-not-illegal-6116758/
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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #55 on: September 18, 2016, 11:46:01 AM »
I refuse to click on link :old:
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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #56 on: September 18, 2016, 07:59:32 PM »
I think I read enough  :police:

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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2016, 11:29:30 AM »
15% is not a vast majority

German POW in Russia: 2 388 443
Released: 2 031 743 
Died in captivity: 356 700

     My sister in law's father was a LW 20mm AAA gunner in France.  He was
wounded on D-Day and sent home to heal.  When the war ended, he was sent
south from his home by the Americans.  He was given to the Soviets and
shipped to Siberia in 1945 along with 2300 others.

     Because he was a journeyman carpenter he was valued and used to help
build bridges on the Siberian highway and railroad.  By the time he was
repatriated in 1950 only 200 of the 2300 were left alive.

     I know it's hearsay, but unless his camp was unusual those numbers sound
off.  The Russians don't even know how many of their own were lost.
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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2016, 07:59:03 PM »
Coming up on the 75th Anniversary of Babi Yar.
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Re: Ghosts of the Ostfront
« Reply #59 on: September 22, 2016, 09:13:44 PM »
Coming up on the 75th Anniversary of Babi Yar.

Among others....

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