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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2017, 05:50:02 PM »
fugitive,

do ya have a copy of that sight so I can try it?

might be just what I need  :)

PM me you email and Ill send it

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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2017, 06:02:12 PM »
Hey ya go.

https://www.mediafire.com/?cb07qcvxiy1c1rx

I zipped the site and the mil file together. Just unzip it to your "sights" folder. Its named two_dot_drop in the game.

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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2017, 09:46:17 PM »
thanks Bustr

.... dumb question....  I forgot how to turn on the lead computing sight off line... anyone have the dot command?

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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2017, 10:14:16 PM »
also what would be considered a good hit average?
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2017, 10:18:28 PM »
also what would be considered a good hit average?

I'd say around 5-8% is a good average. There are a lot that are lower than 5%, but 5% is a pretty good starting point.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2017, 04:45:53 AM »
also what would be considered a good hit average?

Last tour, the median fighter hit% of all pilots with at least 10 sorties was 3.26%. A hit% of 7.18 would have been sufficient to get you into the top 10% of all those fighter pilots.

However, hit percentage between individual pilots is difficult to compare. Because the choice of gun and even more, of targets can have a tremendous influence on your hit percentage.
For example: Someone hunting bombers with a .50cal bird and shooting down fighters with a cannon plane will usually have significant higher hit% than some doing it the other way round.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2017, 06:48:35 AM »
Probably. If they hit anywhere near as hard as they should.

They already hit hard enough. Just work on that aim.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2017, 08:26:25 AM »
They already hit hard enough. Just work on that aim.
I'll be the first to admit my aim needs work which makes it all the more frustrating when you score, what should be lethal hits, and watch planes fly away without a scratch. Happens way too often.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2017, 10:34:51 AM »
If anything I think 50s got turned up in AH3 (I know they haven't) but people are definitely shooting from a lot further out which is pissing me off.

800 yards out seems to be the standard these days for initial fire. That was unheard of in AH2 except against Buffs.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2017, 01:14:30 PM »
In AH3 it seems that starting your shoot from farther out is some of the answer to an over saturation of vets who know when to break, and chicken floppers who know when to start cutting their rug. Look at how far out razor starts his shoot and his success rate of kill strings. In AH3 the vast majority of  air kills on me is HO's and friends called in to help after the con realizes he cannot get on my 6 and I'm pinging him up on snapshots. I have many variations of that reticle I posted which help guide lead shooting.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2017, 01:32:54 PM »
Last tour, the median fighter hit% of all pilots with at least 10 sorties was 3.26%. A hit% of 7.18 would have been sufficient to get you into the top 10% of all those fighter pilots.

However, hit percentage between individual pilots is difficult to compare. Because the choice of gun and even more, of targets can have a tremendous influence on your hit percentage.
For example: Someone hunting bombers with a .50cal bird and shooting down fighters with a cannon plane will usually have significant higher hit% than some doing it the other way round.

Depends how much spare ammo you have too.  With a .50 armed plane, you usually have a large supply and can afford to spray rounds all over the place.  My hit% is far worse in a P-47 than a 109, even though the guns themselves are more accurate.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2017, 04:59:46 PM »
Depends how much spare ammo you have too.  With a .50 armed plane, you usually have a large supply and can afford to spray rounds all over the place.  My hit% is far worse in a P-47 than a 109, even though the guns themselves are more accurate.
Probably because a single 20mm requires less time on target than 8 fifties.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2017, 05:55:45 PM »
The few times Hitech posted the hit counter results for a player who questioned the outcome, it looks like each plane is mapped for hit areas and has a count down counter for a certain number of hits or (weight of fire??) all over the plane. Each mapped part then will fall off or start smoking\burning when the number for it is reached. We know that point when a wing falls off, the engine stops or smokes and so forth. Then the magic BB to the pilot's head one shot kill and pilot wound.

A single round like the 20mm moves that counter farther in one contact than the .30 or .50.

This is my impression of what I've seen posted by Hitech, I'm not trying to speak for him. I could be bassawkwards on it.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2017, 06:52:59 AM »
50s have always been fine.
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Re: whats up with the 0.50?
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2017, 01:56:10 PM »
Just get more of them.  P-47 for the win....  :rock
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