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Offline Samm

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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2002, 10:06:09 PM »
You just said that you can id planes and sometimes autos from 5 klicks w/o binos . :D

Too funny

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2002, 03:20:18 AM »
If you don't want to believe me that's fine--go stick your head in the sand and maybe it'll all go away.  Some people never let fact stand in the way of their preconcieved notions.  I find it simple to ID quite a lot of different types of planes at just under 3 miles  And you can't?  Perhaps you can't see the forest because of all the trees in the way.  

To identify aircraft, you don't need to be able to see individual markings or rivets.  It's a process of elimination.  Is the plane high or low-wing?  Fixed gear?  What kind of tail?  Single or multi-engine?  Trike or taildragger (there's a few Cubs at Skypark including a cool one painted in olive drab with circa-1941 USAAF markings)?  Engine type?  

Can I tell apart very similar aircraft at 3 miles?  Of course not.  Can I tell a Cub from a Cessna?  Heck yes!  There used to be a Yak-18 at Skypark (first time I saw it I thought it was a Kate, except it has an engine fan like a FW-190), and it was highly distinctive from the usual aircraft to say the least.  

In terms of WW2 aircraft, I'd say it'd be EASY to tell say a P-47D from a Bf-109 at 3 miles from virtually any angle.  Telling that 109 from a Macci 205, though, might be a bit trickier and likely impossible from several angles.

Rendering all AH players legally blind isn't the answer.

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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2002, 03:51:05 AM »
Why not show distance icons from 5K out and type icons from only 2 or 3 K out?

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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2002, 04:49:25 AM »
Actually perkplanes have separate icons so you can get into one of them (preferably the 262) fly over gangbanged airfield and drag 75% of those bangers to Hawaii :D

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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2002, 02:19:14 PM »
The C.202 and 205 have different icons because they're named differently. All F4-Us have the same name (ie F4U). What would you call C.202/205 icon?

C.20X?

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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2002, 02:40:25 PM »
"Macci"

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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2002, 02:54:23 PM »
I was just typing that very thing JAB!!

cept i would spell it Macchi, perhaps Macc would suffice as an icon

The planes are soo similar in external appearance,(and aren't perkies) that in RL i would imagine in combat one, would have to get failry close to ID them.  Macchi seems more than reasonable to me.  


There are more differences externally between 109F and 109G( lol and lets compare 190D vs 190A !!)  than 202 and 205.

I'd imagine a 190D in formation with a 190A(in RL) at 3 miles would appear to be 2 different aircraft.


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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2002, 06:06:52 PM »
Samm, it may surprise you, but during WW2 the entire population of the UK was taught to identify German aircraft from a great distance (because they were bombers, possibly with fighter escort). Posters were everywhere, and watch stations were all around the coasts. The human eye excels at pattern recognition; radar may have made it less important, but radar can fail.

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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2002, 08:51:31 PM »
Why would that surprise me ?

 To give some perspective of how far 15,000 feet is, that is higher than the summit of Mt Rainier which is often above the clouds ! Lol, anyone who has ever been in western Washington can relate  to this .

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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2002, 06:42:55 AM »
The C205 and C202 have different icon for a reason.

While not a perk plane in terms of perk points, the C202 is a perk plane 'in spirit'. It is so much better than the rest of the planes, but because HTC have decided to keep this a secret, it isn't perked.

Everyone knows what the mighty DeathRay(tm) technology of the C202 can do.

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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2002, 07:22:52 AM »
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Originally posted by StSanta
Everyone knows what the mighty DeathRay(tm) technology of the C202 can do.


All I can do is to second that :D 202 has a devil inside :)

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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2002, 10:06:08 AM »
The only problem I have with icons is that they are day glow.  

Searching the skys for enemy planes should take more than the briefest flick of the thumb which is all it take to check your six when you know the bad guy will have a huge set of red letters over his head.

My suggested solution is for the icons to all be the *same color* and *start as transparent* against the background and increase in contrast as the range closed.

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« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2002, 10:43:42 AM »
HFMudd, good idea for arenas like the CT...

Hmm doesn't ww2ol already use this..


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