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Offline FOGOLD

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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2002, 07:51:33 AM »
To adress the initial question, I learned to fly in CFS 1, Janes WWII Fighters. EAW and they are useful if you are really new to flight simming before getting into AH. EAW is ancient now, but its stall/spin modelling is fearsome and taught me a helluva lot about real flying and managing E. WWII fighters still looks as good as Il2 Sturmovik IMO and is still great fun. Its flight model is too easy though.  

HOWEVER, beyond that, theres no substitute for flying, flying, flying in AH. It's not a great game if you have very little experience of flight sims and flying other flight sims won't improve your shooting much.

Best advice.  Don't mind being called a dweeb or a newbie! Get stuck in and prepare to die lots. It is the fact that AH is difficult that makes it so rewarding. Once you get practiced at AH, you won't want to fly against AI again. I have a v dusty copy of Il2 Sturmovik sitting on my shelf!

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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2002, 03:25:51 PM »
CSF2 can help you in Aces High if you choose the right planes.  For ACM, grab the stock Corsair with all realism options on and set up a Quick Mission to go after Zeroes that have an advantage.  This will get you used to defensive fighting and pulling lead in turn fights, as well as managing energy, maintaining Situation Awareness and such like that.

You can also use the stock Corsair for practicing ground strafing and landing procedures.

For more advanced dogfighting stuff, you'll want to import some of the 1% planes from http://www.avhistory.org which give a more challenging flight model (and purportedly more realistic).  

For working on my Aces High gunnery, I attack the circling drones from a near head-on approach or from a sharp deflection to work on my snap-shots.  My gunnery has improved as a result.

When you fly Aces High, work the Spitfire IX for dogfighting and the P-51D for high-speed fighting.

As for Robert Shaw's "Fighter Tactics" book, its pretty dry reading that'll give you a headache if you're not ready for it.  Stick with "Aircraft vs Aircraft" by Norman Franks (now on the Bargain Book racks of Barnes and Noble stores) if you want full-color pictures and diagrams, or the Mike Spick books "Luftwaffe Fighter Aces : The Jagdflieger and Their Combat Tactics and Techniques" or " Allied Fighter Aces : The Air Combat Tactics and Techniques of World War II" if you want a book that'll fit in a backpack.

You'll also find it useful to comb through the guide at http://www.netaces.org to get some set-up advice.

And the only reason to have CFS1 around is to import the planes into CFS2. :)

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« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2002, 01:21:54 PM »
well you could always creat a map with a base up in the 15k area and use it in the hth then you wont have any drones and you can practice dive bombing while playing with real people then you can get better at ah and go backl to the ma with some dive bombing and dogfighting skills after all i think the hth gives you some good dogfights often more often then the ma of course

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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2002, 01:28:45 PM »
Forget it, this is different (more realistic) than any game previously used by myself.  I have used almost everyone from CFS1 to 1942 Gold Edition, Jane's, even the obscure Phillips sim and dozens others.  I went up once and one time only and realized "whoa, this is going to take some time, unlike other store bought games".  There isn't a computer enemy.  

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Offline easymo

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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2002, 10:42:53 PM »
AH has the best "practice" arenas. Fly in the 8 player arenas.  Real live drones, best practice there is.  If you embarrass easy, open a second account, and fly as a Newu. Then you can try new things and if you die, so what. and its free.

Offline Dawvgrid

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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2002, 08:57:22 AM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
IL2 works for me..

After flyin in it for an hour and not hitting/shooting anyone down, MA is a piece of cake.

 

Just my words,,,after IL2 AH feels easy,,,,,,,,,especially the gunnery;) ,cant hit squat in IL2.

Offline Af1 Gen Lee

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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2002, 06:38:34 AM »
LoL, I can get easy kills on Il2 but on this 1:);)

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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2002, 07:04:25 AM »
i started flying microsoft flight simulator 96, and i still play it 2002, then i went to air warrior 3, didnt play it much, played mscfs and mscfs2, beat em (2 was tough!) then i played airwarrior again, then they shut it down, and then i came to aces high, and jeez, was it hard, i was like stallin and blackin out all over the place, but i caught on quick. yeah..

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2002, 08:39:16 AM »
Ditto to what Soulyss and the others say. I've flown CFS and CFS2 for almost a year and a half - I thought I was a pretty good pilot until I started flying AH 3 days ago - nothing in either of those have prepared me for the realism and the battles in AH (and trust me, I fly CFS 12 hours a week min. with a .7465 kill/death ratio according to my MCRs). The key here I see is patience, patience, practice, practice, and then, more practice. I think that hooking up with a trainer in the TA would be the best advice - some that I have recieved and will be taking tonight or in the morning. There is no other fight sim that can craft your skills for this game as far as my humble opinion goes.:D