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Offline RAM

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« on: March 26, 2000, 08:59:00 AM »
Hey I dont understand german...can anyone tell me WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?
  http://www.unsere-luftwaffe.de/archiv/projekte/index.htm

press Weitere Projekte until "Li DM-1" comes into screen..press it...

WHATS THAT?



Offline Rifle

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2000, 09:10:00 AM »
Lippish experimental aircraft

His research was used as the basis for most of the post WW2 delta winged a/c - like the Dassault Mirages and the F102 Delta Dart and F106 Delta Dagger.

As an aside, do you all know how the name Dassault came about ? (more later   )

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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2000, 03:36:00 PM »
its a glider for testing wing sweep


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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2000, 04:34:00 PM »
Did either of you read his instructions? Hit the bottom button on the sidebar till you se LM1d or something like that, then click that link.  

I have to agree with him, what is that?

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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2000, 04:40:00 PM »
I think Rifle got it right, delta winged experimental.

Dassault was Marcel Bloch's code name in the French resistance, he kept it after the war.

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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2000, 05:12:00 PM »
Hehe, it seems it was supposed to run on a coal dust engine as well... I read something about an engine Lippish built that ran on coal dust in Wolfgang Späte's book "Top Secret Bird" - the problem was once it was started, he couldn't turn the damn thing off!  

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2000, 06:00:00 PM »
What you see is the proof of concept glider. The Coal Powered Ramjet version was slightly Larger. I believe the University of Kansas once put out a book of Lippisch's development of the Delta Wing in Germany. If I can dig out of one of my storage box's I will get the ISBN number for you. After the war he was brought to America (I don't know if it was through project paperclip) and he went to work for Convair/General Dynamics (Not sure when the name changed). There they developed the XF-92 Delta Wing proof of concept aircraft which then led to the F-102.  The original F-102 looked very much like a scaled up XF-92, however, it was drastically redesigned when they discovered area ruleing (Whitcomb?). From there they had the B-58 and the F-106. Finally there is the F-16 which has a delta wing, but it isn't tailess and with FBW for the RSS (Relaxed Static Stability..the F-16 is unstable[e.g.- the CG is ahead of the AC] at subsonic speeds) at subsonic speeds the control concept is quite different from a naturally stable delta.

P.S.-I believe `Kingfisher', their competitor to the SR-71 also had a Delta Wing.

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2000, 06:02:00 PM »
Ra - mostly right.

Char D'assault was his brother's name in the resistance - he died in the hands of the Gestapo.

To honour his memory Bloch changed his name to Dassault.

Cheers,
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2000, 06:10:00 PM »
Wow, great info there Rifle! I never knew that. If you guys are interested in all the designs Germany was working on during WW2, here is another great site you may want to check out.
 http://users.visi.net/~djohnson/luft46.html

I highly recommend the booklet series too.