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Offline Greese

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« on: May 29, 2002, 07:15:00 PM »
Great read (not vouching for authenticity)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------     Since the attack, I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too.

       Here they are:

       1)      "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is
       relative."
       Listen carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't mean, "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always will be, the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection  in history. If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what happens.  In about half a day, the entire world would be a ghost town, and the United States would look like one giant line  to see "The Producers."

       2)      "Violence only leads to more violence."

       This one is so stupid you usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence.  Limp, panicky, half-measures lead to more violence. However, complete, fully-thought-through, professional, well-executed violence never leads to more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead.  That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not  "nurtured back into the bosom of love." Dead. D-E-Well, you get the idea.

       3)      "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community has
       failed us."

       For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter appointee Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy satellites.  "After all, they reasoned, "you can see a license plate from 200 miles away." This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a license plate.  Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks like Gary Busey in a Spring Break '! 93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys.  Gee, I sure would like to meet that Bin Laden fella." Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years.

       4)      "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at us."

       Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than Elton John and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in power.   Mohamed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes into the killing grounds (I'm sorry, one of the "alleged hijackers," according to CNN-they stopped using the word "terrorist," you know), is the son of a Cairo surgeon.  But you knew this, too. In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend more time drinking. At least, that was my excuse. It's the same today.  Take the Anti-Global-Warming (or is it World Trade?  Oh-who-knows-what-the-hell-they-want demonstrators) They all charged their black outfits and plane tickets on dad's credit card(!) before driving to the airport in their SUV's.

       5)      "Any profiling is racial profiling."

       Who's killing us here, the Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm crushed. I think we're all crushed. Please come back. With a cherry on top? Why don't they just change their names, anyway? It's happened in the past.  Think about it. How many Adolfs do you run into these days?  Shortly after that, I remember watching TV with my jaw on the floor as a government official actually said, "That little old grandmother from Sioux City could be carrying something." Okay, how about this:  No, she couldn't. It would never be the grandmother from Sioux City.  Is it even possible? What are the odds? Winning a hundred Powerball lotteries in a row?  A thousand? A million? And now a Secret Service guy has been tossed off a plane and we're all supposed to cry about it because he's an Arab? Didn't it have the tiniest bit to do with the fact that he filled out his forms incorrectly --- three times? And then left an Arab history book on his seat as he strolled off the plane?  And came back? Armed? Let's please all stop singing "We Are the World" for a minute and think practically.  I don't want to be sitting on the floor in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say,  "Well, at least we didn't offend them."

     SO HERE'S what I resolve for the New Year:

       Never to forget our murdered brothers and sisters. Never to let the relativists get away with their immoral thinking.  After all, no matter what your daughter's political science professor says, we didn't start this.

       Have you seen that bumper sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"?  I wish I had one that says, "You First, Butthead. No More Pearl Harbors."

       Dick Hawley, General, USAF (Ret)

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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2002, 07:19:37 PM »
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Have you seen that bumper sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "You First, Butthead. No More Pearl Harbors."


Do unto others before they do unto you.  :)

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2002, 07:44:11 PM »
Thank you for that series of ill thought out arguements.  Fantasic examples of reasoning using extraordinarily bad logic.

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2002, 07:49:31 PM »
« Last Edit: May 29, 2002, 07:51:39 PM by Thrawn »

Offline KG45

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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2002, 08:44:38 PM »
gotta luv the logic woking here:

the first part declares us 'the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in history.'

then the second part explains how we will stomp the living toejam out of anyone who doesn't agree

then this:

'Who's killing us here, the Norwegians'

hmmm -  little timmy mcveigh looked, well, if not norwegian, kinda aryan.

also the the guy pipe bombing mailboxes in the midwest, was he an A-rab?

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« Last Edit: May 29, 2002, 09:13:40 PM by KG45 »
all you fascists, you're bound to lose...

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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2002, 09:47:41 PM »
A-rab? No, he was the perfect product of a liberal upbringing. Diagnosed with ADHD he was given Ritalin when he should have just been taken off of sugar. See how good our Government can bring you up when they really, really try?

If it wasn't for great things like younger women, fishing, and Bass Boats, I'd swear the world is completely screwed up.

But, seriously, we (the U.S.) need to take a harder stance. Screw the P.C. aspects, we need to profile the hell out of any foreign national that could even remotely be linked to terrorist activity. We need to free up the hands of our CIA, and allow them to do their job unfettered. We need to play hardball with the Middle Eastern countries. When this Prince from (sand country of your choice) says, "I do not want women directing my aircraft," we need to tell him to turn around and head home, you backassward bastage! Make him kiss our ass.

Finally, we need to toughen our stance in idiotic countries like Mexico. Apparently, they've been quietly invading the U.S. for years, as Mexican military vehicles have been seen across our border, and even firing on our border patrol.

Muslims in the Phillipines? I bet we still have enough Agent Orange, and Napalm to fix that problem.

Well, rather then write my Congressman, I'm going flying. C'ya.

Anybody got directions to Mecca?:D

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2002, 10:12:17 PM »
Great stuff..i love it.

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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2002, 02:39:31 AM »
Whoever wrote it, he has a valid point about the CIA. After Vietnam, all the liberal types have been falling over themselves in their attempts to keep the CIA under tighter and tighter control, drafting and enforcing horribly stupid laws, effectively forbidding the CIA to do its job. Then 9-11 happens and where is the first place they look for a scapegoat?

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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2002, 09:32:28 AM »
Would that be drafting laws against the CIA or simply forcing the CIA to obey the laws already on the books? As far as responsibility for 9-11 goes, I'm not willing to fault the FBI or CIA, and I'm DAMN sure not ready to fault the "liberals," whoever they may be.

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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2002, 09:38:34 AM »
Read your history Hortlund:

Since 1970

Republican Administrations had 20 years of control.

Democratic Administrations had 12 years.

I guess those dam liberals are just more efficient.


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