80% of College Professors are Democratic

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Maverick
Todd,

I'm still waiting for the source of your statement. I just have to know who is really running the country. I haven't gotten the experiance in conspiracies you know.

LOL See, the fact that you'd take what I'd written to mean some form of conspiracy shows just how completely obtuse you're being.  

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Maverick


I am not being obtuse. I am just pointing out a falacy in your statement. here it is again if you have forgotten.

Richard Neustadt in 1960 wrote a book on presidential power that has been required reading for all incoming administrations since Nixon. The fundamentals of power politics he lays out there have shaped the way presidential administrations conduct business

This statement indicates you have exclusive knowledge of what reading material is "required" for ALL administrations since the Nixon era. I am still waiting for you to reveal just who it is that is "requiring" all administrations since Nixon read that book. I am very interested in who is able to mastermind this conspiracy to influence all these administrations. This implies a very great power. It is up to you, nay you are ethically obligated, to reveal this powerful figure / group! Share the knowledge that we all may be enlightened by your vast intimate knowledge of all these administrations. [/B]

Here it is again for ya Todd. Your statement, accurately quoted I might add, certainly indicates that there is

1. A required reading list, or book to be specific.
2. All administrations since Nixon have had this requirement
3. All administrations since Nixon have complied witrh the books advice on how to perform governmental functions.

I am , and have been, asking for the source of this power you implied is present in the country to enforce the 3 statements you made in that paragraph.

Or you could just admit that you spoke "off the cuff" without any real knowledge in this matter at all.

BTW your sidestepping and latter statements are certainly worthy of a career politician.  When transfixed in a spotlight, simply attack the light or the one asking the questions.

[john9001]

ok ok , i admit i'm obtuse, but i'm going to start working out and i'm on a diet.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Maverick
Here it is again for ya Todd. Your statement, accurately quoted I might add, certainly indicates that there is

1. A required reading list, or book to be specific.
2. All administrations since Nixon have had this requirement
3. All administrations since Nixon have complied witrh the books advice on how to perform governmental functions.

I am , and have been, asking for the source of this power you implied is present in the country to enforce the 3 statements you made in that paragraph.

[/B]

And yet again, you're confusing a general statement of fact with a specific one.  Your conclusions here are based on a faulty premise that is due to a flaw in your logic.

The statement "required reading" was stated in general terms to accentuate the importance of this work.  It does not mean that some teacher assigns reading assignments to the chief of staff as soon as he takes over.

The rest of your faulty conclusions fall apart when you consider that this was a general statement and not a specific one.  Neustadt is important because his observations and suggestions ostensibly work.  He suggests, for instance, that since most presidential "power" manifests itself as persuasion and not coercion, it is important for presidents to engage in activities that increase their political prestigue among other political actors inside the beltline.  This is done by generating long-term political capital through initial, non-trivial legislative successes.  The first six months of any administration are the most important part for determining power for the rest of the term.

Administrations since Nixon have followed this advice to varying degrees.  Nixon's chief of staff overtly stated as much.  George W. Bush's staff worked with Neustadt on planning the transition.  Reagan is a case study in Neustadt-inspired political behavior.

Oh, and since Neustadt doesn't talk about how to undergo "government functions," your third point is also invalid.

Or you could just admit that you spoke "off the cuff" without any real knowledge in this matter at all.

[/B]

Or, conversely, I know quite a bit about what I'm talking about while you are moronically still trying to pick apart something by persistantly misunderstanding it.  Are you intentionally being dense, or is this no act?

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Maverick]

Todd,

You spoke in absolutes when you made that rather sophomoric statement. The fact that you do nothing but attack me personaly instead of the actual argument simply confirms you did not know what you were talking about. You did state required reading. You did state for every administration since Nixon. Please note I do not cast aspersions on your author, just your statements. Your last statements were written to indicate there is some "proof" to your claims but then you got "general" in stating your proof.

Those were not generalities. Since you are unwilling to see your own posts we are done. Have the last word if you want, it is immaterial. I "got your number" already.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Maverick
Those were not generalities. Since you are unwilling to see your own posts we are done. Have the last word if you want, it is immaterial. I "got your number" already.

Righto, Mr. Rolly Eyes (might wanna get that eye condition checked BTW).

I'd be happy to give you sources of the statement.  They range from Neustadt himself (APSA Conference 1999 in Atlanta) to Martha Joynt Kumar (who led a panel discussion with every chief of staff since Nixon except Dick Cheney circa 2000; C-SPAN aired portions of it) to interviews with staff and chiefs of staff via the White House 2001 Project.

Again, that you even believed this was about "getting my number" in the first place proves irrefutably my observations as to your obtuseness and nitpicking.  Grow up.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[Tumor]

Originally posted by bloom25

I can tell you at OSU (Oregon State University) the Engineering department faculty is probably mostly Republican.  (Both in the political leanings of the students and professors.)  I'd venture a guess that the Physics department is the same.  Most of the other departments are dominated by Democrats.  

Does the Engineering Dept mine the perimeter??

[Holden McGroin]

Seems to me it must kind of go like this:

Q: Have your ever smoked pot?
A: Yes, but I never inhaled....

Congratulations, your hired!

Q: Have your ever smoked pot?
A: No, and I never intend to.

Next, Please....