Author Topic: F4U-4 vs Spit XIV (Read 805 times)

Innominate · « **Reply #45 on:** October 16, 2002, 01:24:51 PM »

The D-hog is heavily used for jabo, so it's k/d is meaningless.

The tags force pilots flying perk planes to avoid big fights, avoid situations where they'll be outnumbered. So why is it a surprise that the k/d ratios are higher? The pilots are forced to avoid large fights, and stick to easily winnable ones. Any plane perked would have it's k/d go way up, simply because it's perked.

If you perk the p51d, dora, 109g10, or la7 thier k/d's would go through the roof for the same reason. You don't see the problem with the spit14 having only a slightly better k/d ratio than it's free cousin, which is the second most used plane in the MA?

Oddly enough though, the f4u-4's k/d has gone WAY up this tour. Past tours it's k/d has been well behind the f4u-1c.

-ammo- · « **Reply #46 on:** October 16, 2002, 05:31:55 PM »

I have almost 20% of the total kills for the f4U-4 for this tour up to this point. When I lose a few more of those things the K/D ratio will come back down to normal:D

Shane · « **Reply #47 on:** October 16, 2002, 05:34:57 PM »

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When I lose a few more of those things the K/D ratio will come back down to normal:D

need some help?

-ammo- · « **Reply #48 on:** October 16, 2002, 05:42:24 PM »

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need some help?

I think you are already responsible for one of those, you LA7 dweeb:) CYA in the arena.

Innominate · « **Reply #49 on:** October 16, 2002, 05:43:47 PM »

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I have almost 20% of the total kills for the f4U-4 for this tour up to this point. When I lose a few more of those things the K/D ratio will come back down to normal:D

Come on man, you and your stupid bet are hurting my argument!

-ammo- · « **Reply #50 on:** October 16, 2002, 06:04:30 PM »

we got another bet now on the Bama vs AU game. He took AU, but this time its only one days worth of punishment (unlike the full 7 days for me).

Curly is ruthless.

Shane · « **Reply #51 on:** October 16, 2002, 06:09:12 PM »

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I think you are already responsible for one of those, you LA7 dweeb:) CYA in the arena.

no, no... you're supposed to come back with...

"a freeking uber la7 ran me down on the deck after i had initally pulled away. perk the la7!!"

it was a pleasent surprise to see the distance slowly closing and you too far from help or base. did you run out of wep, or...??

Innominate · « **Reply #52 on:** October 16, 2002, 06:28:59 PM »

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it was a pleasent surprise to see the distance slowly closing and you too far from help or base. did you run out of wep, or...??

With wep, assuming both planes can get down under 1000feet, the la7 is about 3mph faster. The la7 gains a much bigger speed advantage above 1500feet or so. Perk it.

-ammo- · « **Reply #53 on:** October 16, 2002, 10:06:06 PM »

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no, no... you're supposed to come back with...

"a freeking uber la7 ran me down on the deck after i had initally pulled away. perk the la7!!"

it was a pleasent surprise to see the distance slowly closing and you too far from help or base. did you run out of wep, or...??

naa, no need for all that.

I ahve been run down by La&'s all week. Its just faster, no doubt about it. OTD anyway. Heres the kicker, the F4U4 will do 370 at sea level but you better have a bunch of altitude to dive to the deck with. It seems to have a "hump" of around 355 that it will not accelrate past, at least it I havent seen it. Where the la7 will just keep accelerating on up to its top speed no problem. but, its muych lighter and supposed to do that. My other problem at low alt is the stinking dora, pretty much identical situations. I target those two AC first when I enter the melee. Ponies too, but they dont accelrate as well as I do. I can get away from a bad situation with them.

Nope, I didnt run out of WEP, that was all the AC could give me. Wanna see a foilm af a f4U-1 running me down?

F4UDOA · « **Reply #54 on:** October 17, 2002, 11:39:50 AM »

You wanna know why the F4U-4 doesn't fly so well?

F4UDOA · « **Reply #55 on:** October 17, 2002, 11:56:11 AM »

Or even worse....

F4UDOA · « **Reply #56 on:** October 18, 2002, 03:00:45 PM »

Nifty · « **Reply #57 on:** October 18, 2002, 03:34:10 PM »

what am I looking for? climb discrepancies or speed discrepancies? Because to me, the speed charts from HTC look spot on with what you've shown.

It passes 400mph at just over 10,000 under WEP and 15,000 under military on both charts. Other alts and speeds seem to match up as well.

The climbs look shortchanged on the HTC graphs though, and slightly different curves as well.

Innominate · « **Reply #58 on:** October 18, 2002, 03:42:32 PM »

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what am I looking for? climb discrepancies or speed discrepancies? Because to me, the speed charts from HTC look spot on with what you've shown.

Climb rate is off by some 500feet per minute. The curves are pretty close, just offset by about 500feet per minute.

F4UDOA · « **Reply #59 on:** October 19, 2002, 02:53:38 PM »

Exactly,

Climb is way off.

It is not so much the initial climb but the sustained climb under 20K that really bugs me.

For 50 perkies anyway.