Author Topic: The Last Panzer IV thread I'm ever making (Read 1381 times)

Midnight · « **Reply #30 on:** November 30, 2003, 01:45:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Batz
http://w1.183.telia.com/~u18313395/normandy/articles/airpower.html

According to the above even bombs and rockets weren't that effective in killing armor.

That's only because in real life, pilots probably didn't drop bombs or shoot rockets on tanks from 1500 feet in a power dive becuase they would have to be worried about hitting trees or power lines or slamming into the ground.

In AH MA, pilots have no fear of death and can drop bombs all day long to get very practiced at it. Some virtual pilots have been dive bombing for more years and sorties than any real WWII pilot ever had.

A direct hit of a 500lb bomb on a Panzer would certainly cause catastrophic damage to the upper armor, turret and treads.

A direct hit of a HVAR on a Panzer would certainly be enough to damage tracks or disable an engine or damage the drive mechanisms for the main turret / gun making it inoperable.

These threads on aerial weapons used on ground vehicles don't take the above into account. Even in your link, it is stated that tanks were damaged / disabled by aerial weapons.

SlapShot · « **Reply #31 on:** November 30, 2003, 09:23:03 AM »

Urchin ... everything you say is TRUE, but it still doesn't stop me from jumping in a GV to add a little variety to my gameplay.

I am reserving any and all complaints about GVs until AH II is released. I am hoping that HT and crew have read the numerous posts about the GV damage model and are applying the appropriate fixes to that set of code. I don't believe that we will see any changes to the GVs in this current set of code.

MetaTron · « **Reply #32 on:** November 30, 2003, 10:17:50 PM »

It should be that way because my chums and I cant run out and setup tank mines. If you want to be 50 cal proof you can try a Tiger although I hear someone has learned how to detrack even them.

wipass · « **Reply #33 on:** December 01, 2003, 04:27:36 AM »

easiest way to kill a tiger is to let him drive to the town, when he drives over a window frame he blows up, hate to lose perks to window frames

wipass

MetaTron · « **Reply #34 on:** December 01, 2003, 03:57:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Midnight
That's only because in real life, pilots probably didn't drop bombs or shoot rockets on tanks from 1500 feet in a power dive becuase they would have to be worried about hitting trees or power lines or slamming into the ground..

Rhubarb, Interdiction, and S&D sorties are fiction okay? I see. I always thought pilots obeyed orders and even seized an occasional oppurtunity but maybe I got that wrong.

I desire the code reflect a gunners use of the pintle position and allow a pilot wound for a kill even on a Tiger or at least knock out the commander and gunner so the gun is worthless.

vorticon · « **Reply #35 on:** December 01, 2003, 04:27:00 PM »

wait a minute

if 1 20mm shot from 200 m can penetrate 20mm of armour annd your firing several shots at the tank wont you eventually penetrate the armour completly because your hitting in approximatly the same spot (some in different spots but after the first 10 bullets you'll have your main hit radius penetrated)

probably didnt happen in real life...but just a thought

humble · « **Reply #36 on:** December 01, 2003, 04:42:19 PM »

hmmm, missed the part where you quoted an old post of mine...but I'm sure I've put my share of junk up anyway:eek:

Urchin I couldn't agree with you more overall...regardless of what I may or may not have posted before. For me the problem goes a bit deeper. I want to fly the best flight sim available...the game is Aces High...not tank warrior. Why they're wasting their time and resources on this garbage is beyond me when they dont even have a Ki-84 (among many others). I still don't see why they bother with the grossly incorrect GV models at all.