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Offline Hyrax81st

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« on: April 29, 2004, 02:32:40 AM »
For those of you who are of an age to remember the former Soviet Union very well, this website will be an amazing reminder of exactly how closed off and secretive that government was. The events of Chyernobyl directly led to Mikhail Gorbachyev coming to power and (along with Poland's Gdansk shipyards labor movement, Solidarnosz) helped usher in the final collapse of the Soviet Union. I remember reading later that our spy satellites detected a huge infrared signature in Ukraine at the time of the meltdown and after initially thinking it was a launch of some sort, that was quickly replaced with another fear. I think the Swedes were the first to detect unusual radiation levels in their country (the plume had traveled through Ukraine, Byelorussia and into several other countries). After repeated requests for information, the Soviet government finally admitted they'd had a reactor "accident".

The photos of the Chyernobyl area "dead zone" are really unsettling. It's worth taking the time to read the whole thing and look at every photo...

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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2004, 02:34:34 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2004, 02:48:09 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2004, 02:58:51 AM »
Revisited indeed

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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2004, 02:59:46 AM »
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She's mine, shoo.


WRONG! I called her first in an earlier thread........Back off dude!
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2004, 03:10:46 AM »
who's turn is it to pimp STALKER this time around? I lost track. ;)
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2004, 03:15:45 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2004, 03:33:55 AM »
5th or 6th???

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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2004, 07:24:12 AM »
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The photos of the Chyernobyl area "dead zone" are really unsettling. It's worth taking the time to read the whole thing and look at every photo...


It sure is

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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2004, 07:44:53 AM »
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For those of you who are of an age to remember the former Soviet Union very well, this website will be an amazing reminder of exactly how closed off and secretive that government was. The events of Chyernobyl directly led to Mikhail Gorbachyev coming to power and (along with Poland's Gdansk shipyards labor movement, Solidarnosz) helped usher in the final collapse of the Soviet Union.
 

Gorbachov came to power in Spring 1985. Chernobyl accident happened a year later.

Polish events in 1980-81 didn't make any signifcant influence on Soviet regime.

"Collapse" of the USSR was a direct result of stupid policy of Gorbachev's gang of traitors.

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I think the Swedes were the first to detect unusual radiation levels in their country (the plume had traveled through Ukraine, Byelorussia and into several other countries). After repeated requests for information, the Soviet government finally admitted they'd had a reactor "accident".


In Moscow we didn't find any unusual radiation, I mean we went to our school Physics lab and played with a radiation detector. We also tested some food from Belorussia and Ukraine.

Soviet government reported about the catastrophe immediately. I remember it in the morning news and newspapers. I doubt that there were any "repeated requests for information".

Funny how distorted some thing look even in modern Russian press, and in the West they seem to rewrite history wholesale. They have great experience :(

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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2004, 08:14:53 AM »
We got the news one day after we got the fallout. So it was about three days after the accident.

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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2004, 08:29:13 AM »
You're right Boroda, Gorbachev was already there... I would correct my statement to say that I think the Chyernobyl accident provided Gorbachev with the "event" which empowered him to promote his policies ("opening up"/glasnost) in a big way. Once the shroud of secrecy started being torn away from this nuclear event, it became much easier to keep going in that direction ---  strictly my opinion.

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2004, 08:30:20 AM »
Mora,

Thanks for the correction. Did the Finn's "receive" the news directly from Soviet authorities ? or did they find out with their own detectors ?

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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2004, 12:51:01 PM »
I may be mistaken, I remember the accident in the news on monday morning, and April, 26, was saturday. So it took one day to publish a report in a morning issue of Pravda.  For Soviet times it meant "immediately".