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« on: July 19, 2004, 10:48:55 PM »
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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

George W. Bush, State of the Union address, Jan. 28, 2003.


Those were "the 16 words" in a momentous message to a joint session of Congress that were pounced on by the wrong-war left to become the simple centerpiece of its angry accusation that "Bush lied to us" -- or, as John Kerry more delicately puts it, "misled" us into thinking that Saddam's Iraq posed a danger to the United States.

The he-lied-to-us charge was led by Joseph Wilson, a former diplomat sent in early 2002 by the CIA to Niger to check out reports by several European intelligence services that Iraq had secretly tried to buy that African nation's only major export, "yellowcake" uranium ore.

Wilson testified to the Senate Intelligence Committee that he had assured U.S. officials back in 2002 that "there was nothing to the story." When columnist Robert Novak raised the question of nepotism by reporting that he got the assignment at the urging of his CIA wife, Wilson denied it heatedly and denounced her "outing," triggering an investigation. The skilled self-promoter was then embraced as an antiwar martyr, sold a book with "truth" in its title, appeared on the cover of Time and every TV talk show denouncing Bush.

Two exhaustive government reports came out last week showing that it is the president's lionized accuser, and not Bush, who has been having trouble with the truth.

Contrary to his indignant claim that "Valerie had nothing to do with the matter" of selecting him for the African trip, the Senate published testimony that his CIA wife had "offered up his name" and printed her memo to her boss that "my husband has good relations" with Niger officials and "lots of French contacts." Further destroying his credibility, Wilson now insists this strong pitch did not constitute a recommendation.

More important, it now turns out that senators believe his report to the CIA after visiting Niger actually bolstered the case that Saddam sought -- Bush's truthful verb was "sought" -- yellowcake, the stuff of nuclear bombs. The CIA gave Wilson's report a "good" grade because "the Nigerien officials admitted that the Iraqi delegation had traveled there in 1999 and that the Nigerien prime minister believed the Iraqis were interested in purchasing uranium" -- confirming what the British and Italian intelligence services had told us from their own sources.

But a CIA analyst opined "the Brits have exaggerated this issue" because "the Iraqis already have 550 metric tons of uranium oxide in their inventory."

State Department intelligence also was dubious, reports the Senate, more so in October when an Italian journalist brought in a bunch of phony documents somebody was trying to sell him about a Niger uranium transaction. This outweighed the report of a top security official in the French Foreign Ministry, who told U.S. diplomats in November 2002 that "France believed the reporting was true that Iraq had made a procurement attempt for uranium from Niger."

Two months later, with no objection from the CIA, the famous 16 words went into Bush's 2003 State of the Union.

But when word leaked about the fake documents -- which were not the basis of the previous reporting by our allies -- Wilson launched his publicity campaign, acting as if he had known earlier about the forgeries. The Senate reports that in his misleading anonymous leak to the Washington Post, "He said he may have misspoken ... he said he may have become confused about his own recollection... ." The subsequent firestorm caused the White House to retreat prematurely with: "the 16 words did not rise to the level of inclusion in the State of the Union address."

That apology was a mistake; Bush had spoken the plain truth. Did Saddam seek uranium from Africa, evidence of his continuing illegal interest in a nuclear weapon? Here is Lord Butler's nonpartisan panel, which closely examined the basis of the British intelligence:

"We conclude that the statement in President Bush's State of the Union address of 28 January 2003 that 'The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa' was well-founded."

EDITED:  Just for my new friend, Nashie.
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2004, 11:02:47 PM »
Italics suck for body copy.

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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2004, 11:09:08 PM »
come to the con Nash!

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2004, 11:18:48 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2004, 11:22:05 PM »
bettah. :aok

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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2004, 11:56:11 PM »
It will be very interesting to see if Gadhaffi produces any evidence of collaboration with Iraq in the production of nukes or other WMDs as has been reported. Should this occur, surely it will silence all of those bemoaning the ousting of Saddam. Surely all those claiming that the US should have waited indefinitely for the UN inspectors to find WMDs will realize that they never would have found them and that Saddam really was a great threat and violated the terms of his surrender at every turn. Surely their opinion of the US will then become enlightened and the bitterness will disappear. Well, maybe not surely, but one can hope.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2004, 01:42:46 AM »
wait. slow down there hoss. youre telling me that a democrat blatantly and repeatedly lied both to media and during govt hearing in effort to discredit bush administration? stop waving the flag and being such a blind patriot dude. wake up before its to late. :)

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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2004, 07:58:50 AM »
sheesh... next you guys will be telling me that moores movie is based on a book that is BS too.  

Looks like kerrie is going around "missleading" people.

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2004, 06:45:14 PM »
Drop it lazs wont do any good.how can you educate preple that dont know what the meaning of is ..is?  Now we find out they dont know what a breif case is for,thought all those stolen papers where suppose to go down front of pants ....Nope give it up guy.

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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2004, 06:48:41 PM »
Ok   Ok   I put my foot in my mouth   how can you educate someone that cant spell people or brief.....happy now

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2004, 09:19:49 AM »
wait... you mean both kerrie and moore are missleading people about Bush in order to make him look bad?   Next you will be telling me that moore thinks Americans are the dumbest people on earth and that kerrie thinks an additional 50 cents a gallon tax on gas will be good for us.

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