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Offline lazs2

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2004, 09:52:08 AM »
I don't find consevatisivm "barbaric" but I do find liberalism dehumanizing (you aren't good enough on your own without help from the elite administering from our dachous).

I wouldn't tell the wife about your decision tho airhead... she won't buy it.   better just tell her yu are voting for kerrie with all the women and then... when you are in the booth... vote for Bush with the men.

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2004, 10:17:52 AM »
Ripsnort., the latest example of the erosion of our rights is Michael Powell's attempt to regulate content of Cable TV and satellite TV. He was able to effectively squash critisism of GWB on the radio airways as the radio airways are public property- although I disagreed with that and saw it as censorship of those you don't agree with- nothing more, npthing less- I could understand the logic.

Now the plan is for the Administration to censor ALL Media content, if not through mega mergers which puts our media in the hands of a few conglamorates, then through regulation.

This is one example, and the fact you, and the other Neo-Cons, don't realise it's happening as we speak shows me we need 4 more years of GWB... maybe then you'll get it.

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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2004, 10:30:14 AM »
I think the Dems would have had a much easier time of saving us from this pending rule by the Evil Emporer who's building the Death Star IF they hadn't picked the most liberal Senator in the Government to run.

Face it, Kerry is an extremist in the sense that he is as far to the liberal end of the bell curve as they could go. They've managed to mask that pretty well by focusing on VietNam and not his Senate voting record but it's true nonetheless. To me, he's about the polar opposite of Pat Buchanan. Neither one desirable, of course.

What happened to the true middle-of-the-road Democratic moderate?
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2004, 10:34:08 AM »
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What happened to the true middle-of-the-road Democratic moderate?


Well he could only serve 2 terms - it's the law. Then George Bush got voted in.

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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2004, 10:41:28 AM »
I smell stinky bait.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2004, 10:44:25 AM »
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Ripsnort., the latest example of the erosion of our rights is Michael Powell's attempt to regulate content of Cable TV and satellite TV. He was able to effectively squash critisism of GWB on the radio airways as the radio airways are public property- although I disagreed with that and saw it as censorship of those you don't agree with- nothing more, npthing less- I could understand the logic.

Now the plan is for the Administration to censor ALL Media content, if not through mega mergers which puts our media in the hands of a few conglamorates, then through regulation.

This is one example, and the fact you, and the other Neo-Cons, don't realise it's happening as we speak shows me we need 4 more years of GWB... maybe then you'll get it.


Well then you *should* vote for Mr. Bush, read on:
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Mr Powell does at least retain the support of President George Bush, however, who could exercise for the first time his right to veto legislation in order to rescue Mr Powell from his enemies in Congress. This week Rupert Murdoch, boss of News Corp and bogeyman to the rule-change opponents, put the odds on a veto at 60%.


As soon as you remove your foot from your mouth, I'd suggest posting a reply when you can. ;)

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2004, 10:46:38 AM »
What happened to the true middle of the road Republican moderate?

Bush is as conservative as Kerry is liberal-  I'd consider Buchanan and Nader to be fringe.

The fact so many of you are willing to condone the Iraqi invasion, the mess Conservatives have made by deregulation, and the polarization of gays and minorities from mainstream society is what's convinced me to vote for Bush.

In four more years- when we're still mired in a ground war in the Middle East with no end in sight, when our liberties have been further stripped, when abortion is banned and gays are censored through Constitutional Amendment- then we'll be able to bury Conservatism as an outdated concept and become progressive as a society again- with liberty, and justice, for all.

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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2004, 10:53:10 AM »
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As soon as you remove your foot from your mouth, I'd suggest posting a reply when you can. ;)


Are we talking about the same Michael Powell? I was refering to the Michael Powell, Chairman of the FCC-

Yes, he was appointed by Clinton (a moderate Democrat) but he was made Chairman by Bush (a conservative Republican.)

Anyway Rip we're both voting for the same guy, so we're preaching to the chior now.

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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2004, 11:21:47 AM »
Well, you're an admitted "Kerry man" apparently. To those who aren't, Kerry's absolutely as "fringe" as Buchanan or Nader. Even a liberal organization, ADA, puts him in the top 10 liberals in the Senate. That's at a pointy end of the bell curve no matter how you look at it.

So certainly, to my mind, Bush is nowhere near Buchanan as a Conservative extremist. If one thinks that, one hasn't studied Buchanan much. OTOH, Kerry IS the extreme end of the liberal spectrum and his voting record in the Senate is there for all to examine.

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we'll be able to bury Conservatism as an outdated concept and become progressive as a society again


And replace it with an overbearing nanny government with socialist/communist wealth-redistribution policies.

Sorry, not everyone is going to think that's a better solution.

I'm still voting Lib. ;)
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2004, 12:05:45 PM »
The notion that there is some kind of great ideological struggle going on is hilarious.  It's not Ali vs. Foreman.  It's WWF.  And Airhead is the guy in the front row in a wifebeater with a "GO MACHOMAN" sign.

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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2004, 02:46:32 PM »
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Are we talking about the same Michael Powell? I was refering to the Michael Powell, Chairman of the FCC-

 


Yes, the same Powell.

Link to the story I quoted from above:
http://www.economist.com/business/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2054729

Again...Mr Powell does at least retain the support of President George Bush, however, who could exercise for the first time his right to veto legislation in order to rescue Mr Powell from his enemies in Congress
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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2004, 03:08:11 PM »
Airhead....Iraq....


 Hey numbskull the reason we supported the invasion of Iraq was to fold.

  1 We thought he had wmds,the 3 people that gave the most convencing arguement he had them was ,Clinton....Kerry...Putin[russia]....ya your heros.

 2 to fight there instead of here , to give us time to prepare best we can,    of course for people like you ,who would rather see Americans dead than terriost and believe we are more of a danger to the world than terrorist ,youll never understand the concept of this policy.