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Offline Bear69

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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2005, 11:17:56 AM »
it happens a lot if you use the auto takeoff feature.  i'll see what i can do about recording and posting it.
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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2005, 12:55:11 PM »
I have found that I leave my bombers set of flaps at setting one and roll down the runway and just before lift off I hit one more setting of flaps.  I do nothing now, just let the planes take off and then when they form up which they will do just after they get some alt.  


Then they will form up and all you have to do is hit X.  Let the flaps come up on their own and then when down hit ALT-X for auto climb and you got 3 planes with ya..

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2005, 03:16:22 PM »
ok...try this...i've never lost a drone.........no flaps......when your bomber starts to give a little lift...pull up and hold it till you get to around 200 to 250ft and hit X and wait for about 10sec (b17s, b24s, b26s,) and about 20 sec(lancs)then hit alt X...now switch to F3 mode and watch your drones.....they should form right up...if 1 starts to lag behind a bit i do this....while still in auto climb...throttle down to about 25% for about 10sec then back to full throttle and the drone will catch up fast......also try not to take of towards any hills if possable and dont turn untill drones are formed up...once the drones are formed up...switch to the front gunner then hit F3 and use the rudder to turn......GL
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2005, 01:49:14 AM »
Why do all that when it is just as simple as I stated?  duh~

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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2005, 04:55:04 AM »
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it happens a lot if you use the auto takeoff feature.  i'll see what i can do about recording and posting it.
So don't use the auto takeoff feature!  :)  I never use auto takeoff and never have a problem.  Of course, it does mean a lot of rudder work to keep going straight on the runway, but that's all part of the challenge.  :D  And I only use flaps on Lancasters....
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2005, 11:10:20 AM »
I had a few problems till someone gave me the following suggestion which seems to work good. Roll full throttle, no flaps, get up to the 250 ft so the drones split. When they do pop out 1 notch of flaps and work your throttle appropiately. Havent lost 1 drone since using this method.

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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2005, 12:37:30 PM »
call me silly, but fixing the feature would work too lol

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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2005, 07:11:05 PM »
I don't agree that anything needs fixing!  It just needs careful management on takeoff..... would be no good if it was too easy.... :)
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2005, 07:21:26 PM »
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would be no good if it was too easy.... :)
that is probably the most true and basic statement in this whole thread....

reading this post:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139192


got me to thinking, and i agree drones should be removed OR perked.
I don't know what to put here yet.

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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2005, 02:18:45 AM »
I always go high when I fly bombers, so a lot of that thread doesn't apply to me - its mostly whining about the low-level bombers.  So, why should I be penalised for going high with formations?  :D
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2005, 03:56:53 PM »
Restate myself, Never have trouble on takeoff, landing is the pain.
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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2005, 04:47:47 PM »
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I had a few problems till someone gave me the following suggestion which seems to work good. Roll full throttle, no flaps, get up to the 250 ft so the drones split. When they do pop out 1 notch of flaps and work your throttle appropiately. Havent lost 1 drone since using this method.



ive put the flaps down  and i end up with lost drones when i turn ... this part is a vicious bug and it happens at any alt after the drones have been alined and ive flown a ways  they still every once and awhile get the evil gremlin and they stay on there corse and wont turn ....  and im talking about soft turns ...  

what im saying is it doesnt happen all the time exspecially when im solo w/ my formation .  but when ever my squad is up in them alot of us are having to to the drone shuffle.
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2005, 01:01:09 AM »
There is a problem with the FM for drones... Hitech admitted it in a previous post.  They are revamping join up method for drones in TOD apparently.   most of the time I have no problem.  I recently upped 3 different flights of lancs from the same field, same runway each time.  one of the 3 times I lost a drone.  If I am using the same method (I was) I SHOULD get the same result (I DIDNT)  I am not one of the low-alt bomber guys.  When I fly bombers I plan out bomb runs with different targets, alternates, etc.  I am waiting on TOD to see if this gets better... I am a patient person, but my patience wears a bit thin when I and others who have LEGITIMATE complaints about a product we pay for regularly, we post it in an appropriate forum, send in films and yet we are slammed by those who are fortunate enough to not have the same problem.  There IS a problem, it was ADMITTED to by Hitech himself.  I RARELY lose drones at all but when it does happen due to this bug it irritates me!  I never had a problem landing formations until yesterday, and it was my first time flying AR234s in a formation... The approach was fine, then the instant I dropped my gear, the drones dirt napped for a loss of 120+ perks.

Like I said, I am waiting for TOD to see if the bugs are fixed before I comment on this again, but seeing people flamed on the board for complaining about a problem is ridiculous.  This IS the appropriate forum for this sort of report.

For those who feel they have the perfect method... good for you!  I am happy that your experience is a positive one.  Remember though when you deal with computers with such a vast array of hardware out there and with each piece of hardware handling the data in different ways you can receive differing results.  Just the latency of the memory in each of your devices in your computer can affect gameplay... that memory in your network switch that uses a store-and-forward method for example can affect your gameplay.  thats just a TINY example of things that make a difference.  So, instead of encouraging someone to quit the game, or flame them on the board simply sit back and see what happens.  Tightening up the drones flight model or envelope might help solve their problem.  When you deal with computers, you cannot ALWAYS blame the method of the user because most computers here are different and therefore to SOME degree the parameters of gameplay and the players satisfaction with gameplay is going to be different.


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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2005, 01:59:40 AM »
Yet another method to enhance your bombing experience until HTC gets a chance to look at it. Everyone I have told this to has not had any problems after using these methods.

B-24s: If 50% or more fuel, extend 1 more notch of flaps as you start rolling. After drones split (250' AGL) and form up (which they will), retract 1 notch, and the last notch soon after, if the drones are not being left behind.

Landing for all bombers: Do not extend more than 2 notches of flaps. Do not extend gear until over the end of the runway. Your drones will land and not continue flying overhead and explode.

I trust this helps those having problems now.

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« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2005, 11:04:51 AM »
I almost never lose drones on takeoff and very rarely have problems with them joining up. I don't use any flaps or auto takeoff.

BUT, there's a definite landing bug. I haven't had drones land with me since 1-2 patches ago. Tried everything: flaps/no flaps, faster approach, slower approach, drop gear early, drop gear late, you name it. Nothing works. They normally break off on short final, fly past lead plane, and explode.

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