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Offline AKDejaVu

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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2001, 11:53:00 AM »
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So you didn't like the movie, I bet someone else did! With almost every movie you will find someone who loved it, and someone who loathed it.

I see many movies in spite of reviews.. not because of them.

The only movie I have not seen recently because of a bad review was Joe Dirt.  SOB's writeup on it was enough for me to wait until it hits cable.  I'm trying to imagine a film so bad that it embarassed SOB in front of his friends. <shudder>

Anyone see "Thin Red Line"?  I hated this movie more than I've hated any movie before.  It was nominated for an Academy Award for best picture.

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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2001, 12:25:00 PM »
Thin Red Line (shudder). I waited to see it on cable and wasn't disappointed  ;)It is perhaps the weakest war movie (for different reasons) since Hamburger Hill. I couldn't suspend reality at all and it didn't remind me of the military experience one bit. A pale effort compared to Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, Enemy at the Gates (book is better), Full Metal Jacket and even Apocalypse Now (I hear the Apocalypse Now director's cut? shown at Cannes is pretty amazing).

I'll probably see Pearl Harbor at the discount big screen showing just to see the limited action scenes.

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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2001, 06:26:00 PM »
Just saw AI... can't say it was entertaining as much as it was disturbing.

Haley Joel Osment is a helluva talent.

I agree with earlier posts. The movie should have ended earlier. I don't think Speilberg has the courage to end a movie on a sour note.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2001, 07:34:00 PM »
YEAH!  It wasn't just me that thought "The Thin Red Line" was bad.  ;)

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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2001, 06:53:00 AM »
Thin Red Line was imagery and tried to portray the ideal of an individual's view on a world gone mad. See it again without expecting a shootfest or epic heroics (like private Ryan) and you will see that movie in another light. I think that movie was very well made.

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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2001, 09:21:00 AM »
Tac,

I know what thin red line was supposed to be.  It was too much imagery and about 100 too many rhetorical questions.

We were sitting in the theatre saying things like "dead bird cutaway coming up" and "rhetorical question coming up"... nailing it every time.  The people in the theatre were laughing pretty hard.

The funniest was when I got up to go to the restroom and came back 5 mins later.  As a sat down, I asked (rather loudly) "Did I miss anything?"  The whole theatre started laughing pretty hard at that.

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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2001, 10:05:00 AM »
the thin red line was an awful movie

it is teh only movie where i fell asleep in teh theatre while watching it!

what a piece of garbage.

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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2001, 11:02:00 AM »
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Thin Red Line was imagery and tried to portray the ideal of an individual's view on a world gone mad. See it again without expecting a shootfest or epic heroics (like private Ryan) and you will see that movie in another light. I think that movie was very well made.
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I will agreed that they "tried" to use imagery but contend they failed. I just couldn't buy into it. Another intellectual war film, Apocalyspe Now, did a better job IMHO. While more convenional, Full Metal Jacket is superior as well, again in IMHO (of course, highly subjective).

While searching for a site that noted where it was filmed (it just didn't look like how I pictured Guadalcanal) I came across this review that pretty well sums up my impression of the movie:CNN FILM REVIEW

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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2001, 08:02:00 PM »
God, I hated Thin Red Line too.

And what annoys me about TRL is when you criticize it (as I've done on generic "movie" groups) you get trashed for being some sort of uncultured moron who only likes John Wayne movies and unthinking shoot-em-ups.

It tried to be a deep, serious, complex movie with a message (which I LIKE) and failed miserably.  Saving Private Ryan was a far superior movie, in terms not just of being a "movie" but as a work of moviemaking art.

Part of the strange TRL worship always involves trashing of SPR, which is largely due to blind hatred of  Spielberg and/or commercial success. Also the fact that Malick was seen as this legendary figure coming in from the cold...people didn't want to believe he could make something that sucked.

I too was laughing at the 765th slow, lingering shot of a parrot in a tree. It was HITTING YOU OVER THE HEAD with its "messages" (man and nature, etc.)

And the incessant voiceovers were filled with every mind-numbing, navel-examing cliche in the book. I was desperately praying for Witt to get his head blown off ASAP so we'd be spared his pointless voiceovers. Or attacked by a flock of vicious colorful parrots.

It's bad moviemaking to have to have so much of the point made by the "inner thoughts" of the protagonists rather than the dialogue. And from the WWII generation people I've met, that inner dialogue was more along the lines of "Shit, hope I don't get blown away today. Where's the booze? Malaria stinks. I want to kill some Japs" then the sort of esoteric philosophical ramblings the characters in this movie had.

The soldiers were pretty unbelievable as soldiers.

The combat scenes on the high kunai grass ridges were quite nice (and unique). That's about all I liked.

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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2001, 08:13:00 PM »
Thin Red Line sucked.  

Even worse, thought not a war movie was the recent release "Driven" with Sly Stallone.  Horrible movie.

Apocalypse Now and Full Metal Jacket - I liked both alot.

Platoon very good too.

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