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Offline Angus

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« on: November 08, 2005, 05:28:31 AM »
Ok, we all heard that the P39 being wished for and I agree. I think it would see more use than for instance the P40 and other queens.
But how about the P63? I just read up about it to find out that although it looks similar, it is a new development.
It would fit the MA nicely. A mean gun package (4x.50 + 37mm) and 410 mph at 25K, not so sure of climb but it has a decent altitude performance, and was told to be quite agile.
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2005, 06:27:20 AM »
With most furballs happening on the deck, most of the Cobras would be well at home in the MA. However, any version using the American-made 37mm would be at a disadvantage due to balistics not dissimilar from a rat launched from an air-cannon.
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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2005, 10:26:40 AM »
Well, you have 4x.50 cal's to go with it.
Imagine the Yak tankbuster,- it just has some ping-pong balls after the slugs are gone ;)
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2005, 01:44:13 PM »
P63 is a plane we should have.  Here's the on I'd really like though...

http://home.att.net/~C.C.Jordan/XP-39.html

It turns out the P39 was a decent plane before the military got it's hands on it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2005, 01:49:10 PM »
Why should we have the P-63?  The effect on the course of WWII by the C.205 and N1K2-J are huge when compared with the effect of the P-63.  The P-63 is a non-entity in terms of WWII, probably less of one than even the Ta152.

Now a few versions of the P-39 I can understand and get behind, but the P-63, no.
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2005, 01:49:34 PM »
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With most furballs happening on the deck, most of the Cobras would be well at home in the MA. However, any version using the American-made 37mm would be at a disadvantage due to balistics not dissimilar from a rat launched from an air-cannon.


You've never shot a rat out of an air cannon. With enough co2 and a long barrel, you can put about half the rat through a wall.
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2005, 02:54:38 PM »
The 37mm on the P-39 is quite low muzzle velocity and the RoF is also pretty slow, slower than the NS-37 on the Yak-9T.  As a comparison I have listed the basic stats of the MF/FF as carried by the Bf109E-4 and Bf110C-4 (not the gun carried by things like the Bf109G-2 or Fw190D-9) in comparison with the Hispano Mk II in the first group.  The scond group lists the M4 37mm cannon of the P-39 as compared to the NS-37 on the Yak-9T.  You can see how even the tremendously different MG/FF and Hispano Mk II are claser together than the M4 and NS-37.

20 X 80RB MG/FF 20mm cannon: 600 m/sec muzzle velocity
20 X 110 HS404 20mm cannon: 880 m/sec muzzle velocity

37 X 145R M4 37mm cannon: 610 m/sec muzzle velocity
37 X 195 NS-37 37mm cannon: 900 m/sec muzzle velocity
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2005, 05:12:23 PM »
You can still not discard 4x50 cal.
And the plane was quite fast and very very robust.
Entirely an eastern front ride I belive but in some numbers yes?
At least the P39 was. This is just a P39 on steroids.
Lots of the artwork would be similar or the same.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2005, 05:20:48 PM »
Here's a neat picture of the drivetrain and cannon of the P39

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/engines/eng2.htm
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2005, 06:00:23 PM »
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Here's a neat picture of the drivetrain and cannon of the P39

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/engines/eng2.htm


Waitasec... Is that the same gun that our PT boat has?
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