Author Topic: U.S. Shows Evidence, Gets NATO Backing (Read 720 times)

Eagler · « **on:** October 02, 2001, 10:02:00 AM »

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011002/ts/attack_dc_274.html

WTG NATO!

now step aside and let us crush the SOBs

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2001, 10:44:00 AM »

This is from CNN:

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Bush said more than 29,000 military personnel, two aircraft carrier battle groups, hundreds of aircraft and an amphibious-ready group have been deployed to undisclosed destinations as the U.S. prepares to respond to the deadliest act of terrorism in the nation's history.

Also in the region are 24 British Royal Navy warships and 23,000 troops that have been sent to Oman for a long-planned military exercise.

Hangtime · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2001, 05:46:00 PM »

After reports of NATO's Operation "Unscheduled Sunrise" were leaked the Taliban began distributing Sun Screen, SPF 3000 today to the inner circle of supporters...

In other news, the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta has indicated that Camel Flea Cultures were being airdropped via RPV all over Iraq and Iran as of yesterday.. the local demand for back-scratchers and flea collars in the Middle East has reached an all time high...

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lord dolf vader · « **Reply #3 on:** October 02, 2001, 09:29:00 PM »

operation "Unscheduled Sunrise" man i hate the idea of war but that is the most bad bellybutton name for the operation i have heard still laughin. thanks hang

-dead- · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2001, 07:15:00 AM »

Hehe more like Operation Questionable Justification - evidence that is SOOOO conclusive, they can't make it public and can only tell NATO: Oh yes, that's me convinced.

Cobra · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2001, 07:52:00 AM »

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Originally posted by -dead-:
Hehe more like Operation Questionable Justification - evidence that is SOOOO conclusive, they can't make it public and can only tell NATO: Oh yes, that's me convinced.

Fortunately, they don't have to convince you, or share their evidence with the entire world's populace

Maybe we should just have a PRC show trial instead

Cobra

Apache · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2001, 08:00:00 AM »

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Hehe more like Operation Questionable Justification - evidence that is SOOOO conclusive, they can't make it public and can only tell NATO: Oh yes, that's me convinced.

If the military and we in the law enforcement community told everything we know & everything that happens on a daily basis, the general public would never come outta da house.

LtHans · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2001, 05:42:00 AM »

Knowledge is power, not weaponry. The enemy already knows too much about us, and we don't know enough about them.

Why do you think 6,000 people are suddenly dead? I for one am very happy that the US is keeping the information under their hat. It is one of the BASIC principles of war. Go ask Sun-Zu himself (and if you don't know who Sun-Zu is, you don't know much about warfare).

Hans.

-dead- · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2001, 05:44:00 PM »

My point was that the evidence sounds dodgy in the extreme if they can't make it public. As I see it either:
1) they have a really bad set of evidence that couldn't withstand public scrutiny or
2) they got the evidence using means that they cannot reveal to the public for fear of causing a riot (ie "Of course it's him - we helped him plan it 10 years ago, only it was supposed to be for Moscow" or "We record and analyse every phone call placed in, from or to America, using this neat Echelon doo-hickey - of course we have the evidence").
Either scenario is disturbing to my mind. As old Berthold Brecht said - "If the government can't trust their own people, why don't they dissolve them and elect a people they can trust?"

Lt Hans - I presume you mean Sun Zi [or Sun Tzu in the crappy Wade-Giles] - otherwise I haven't a clue who Sun-Zu is

. Hehe ask him himself? No one knows who wrote the Sun Zi - it's been debated for well over 300 years. I digress. Indeed you know very little about your enemy - and thanks to your gov't you can't even be sure that you have the right guy (because they won't tell you) - you'll just have to trust your government <shudder>.
That's right, America: Trust your government. Your government would never lie to you. The government is your friend, the government knows what's best for you... Repeat after me: "The government is my friend, the government knows what's best for me."
Saayyy! That sounds familiar: Mao suits and little red books all round!

Thrawn · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2001, 07:08:00 PM »

If they release the evidence, then I imagine that the terrorists will learn alot from their mistakes, and not make them again.

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Toad · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2001, 08:18:00 PM »

Or if they release the evidence publicly it makes the source obvious and compromises your intelligence capability.

Hangtime · « **Reply #11 on:** October 05, 2001, 12:35:00 AM »

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That's right, America: Trust your government. Your government would never lie to you. The government is your friend, the government knows what's best for you... Repeat after me: "The government is my friend, the government knows what's best for me. "Saayyy! That sounds familiar: Mao suits and little red books all round!

This, from a Citizen of a Nation that has just about the lousiest record on Human Rights possible over the entire span of recorded history? You realize you exist at this moment at your Governments Pleasure? Further, do you realize your government has not managed one single truthful statement in 50 years?? Not ONE!!.

Check these facts Dead.. my NATION and it's PEOPLE with the good offices of it's GOVERNMENT have managed to produce enough of everything during it's existence over the last 225 years to obtain predominance in the world in every measurable aspect of success.

Yours; on the otherhand, over the course of the last THREE THOUSAND YEARS has been unable to produce enough of anything to even feed half it's population. A shame you can't eat lies... you'd all be fat and happy and there'd be three times as many of yah.

You merely produce noise from the peanut gallery.. offering tounge-in-cheek commentary on the veracity of our governments statements. Ludicrious. Particularly when yours still insists a P3 agressivly attacked and rammed a benevolent and safely operated Chinese fighter that was only offering friendly escort. Sheesh.

Jeeze; Dead, I wonder.. would you be so bold in criticisim of YOUR government? Or arn't you just a lil afraid you might turn up one fine morning floating in your scummy garbage and turd infested harbor...... -dead- .

Thrawn · « **Reply #12 on:** October 05, 2001, 02:27:00 AM »

Comparing the US to China is likes apples and oranges. Just for the record, China's been feeding itself for years.

Saintaw · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2001, 03:04:00 AM »

Well Eagler, that's no news, the 5th amendment (or whatever it's called) has been voted by NATO countries on the 14/15th/11.

Now, we(NATO allies) are just waiting, for the US to call upon us IF we're needed.

Belgium did move from offering Cash/research aid and finaly stepped up offering our S.F. troops.

About time those fat lards(gov.) here did something IMO

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Thrawn · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2001, 07:57:00 AM »

Not exactly true, I have a friend that works at NATO hq. He say that publicly the NATO countries are standing together. But behind the scenes some of them are begging the US not to call on them for troops. I have a feeling that Canada is one of them. Eighty-one percent of Canadians want Cdn military involvement. Where the fek were they when Cdn government was ripping our military appart over the past 30 yrs?

We're left with about 60 CF-18's, 13 surface combat ships (largest are our 2 30 yr/old distroyers) and 3 infantry regiments (PPCLI, RCR, and the Van Doos). We have some Leopard tanks, but they have 105mm guns.