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TheWobble

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"Adam and Eve" as a US Standard ?
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2001, 06:16:00 PM »
LOL towd ya got me there, nothing like a breakfast on a bun at 2:30am on tuesday  

maby its just the victoria wataburgers that carry some kinda of waterborn colon distabalizing agent and not them all  

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« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2001, 06:52:00 PM »
What about Ash (Ask) and Elm (Embla)....  

The Creation
This story can be found in the Prose Edda. Parts are also located in the Poetic Edda in Voluspá and Grímnismál.

In the beginning there was no earth or heaven, no sand nor see nor cooling waves. There was only Ginnungagap, a great void. In the north there was Nilfheim, and from Nilfheim's spring flowed eleven rivers, known as Elivagar. As the rivers flowed south, they cooled and hardened into ice. In the south, there was the world of Muspelheim, a firey world. The northern part of Ginnungagap became filled with the ice and hoar frost from the Elivagar. When that ice formed and was firm, a drizzling rain arose from the venomous rivers and poured over the ice where it cooled into rime, and one layer of ice formed on top of the other throughout Ginnungagap. The southern part of Ginnungagap was lit by the sparks and glowing embers which flew out of Muspelheim. Where the heat from the south met the coolness in the north the ice was thawed and it began to drip and by the might that sent the heat, life appeared in the drops of the running fluid and this fluid formed into the likeness of a man. He was given the name Ymir.

As the frost continued to thaw another form was created. This form became a cow called Audhumbla. From her teats flowed four rivers of milk and it was upon this that Ymir was fed. While he fed, Ymir slept, and while he slept a male and female frost giant grew from his armpits and one leg fathered a six headed troll with the other leg.

Audhumbla lived by licking the ice-blocks which were salty, and by the evening of the first day there appeared a man's hair where she licked. On the second day, a man's head appeared, and by the third day the whole man was freed from the ice. This man was called Buri. He had a son name Bor who married Bestla, who was the daughter of the giant Bolthurn. Bor and Bestla had three sons, Odhinn, Vili, and Ve.

There was great strife between the offspring of Ymir and the children of Bor and Bestla. Odhinn led his brothers against Ymir and they killed him. Ever since that time there has been hatred and enemity between the gods and the giants.

Odhinn and his brothers dragged Ymir's body into the void. His flesh became the earth, his blood the sea. His bones became the mountains, his hair the trees, and his teeth the stones. Odhinn and his brothers discovered maggots living in what had been Ymir's flesh. They turned these into the dwarves and dark elves and these beings reside in the depths of the earth, mining the ore and minerals beneath the mountains and hills. The world of the dwarves is known as Nidavellir and the world of the dark elves is called Svartalfheim. Odhinn and his brothers also discovered some fine creatures living in the soil formed from Ymir's flesh. They named these creatures light elves and placed them in the world known as Alfheim. As Ymir's blood flowed, it created a flood that killed all the giants, save one. Bergelmir escaped with his household and they made their escape in the first boat, a hollowed out tree-trunk.

The sons of Bor then took Ymir's skull and fashioned from it the sky and set it over the earth. Under each corner they placed a dwarf and it is from the names of these dwarves that we get the directions, North, South, East and West. The sons of Bor then took the sparks and burning embers that were flying about and cast them into the midst of Ginnungagap to light the heavens and the earth. They gave stations to all the stars and planets.

They then fashioned a world for the families of giants and this world is known as Jotunheim. Away from this land they fashioned a stronghold to surround the world, to defend it from the giants. This land was fashioned from Ymir's eyebrows, and it is called Midgard. They then took the brains of Ymir and cast them into the air and these became the storm-threatening clouds.

One day while Odhinn and his brothers were walking along the sea shore they came upon two tree trunks. The gods saw great beauty in the trunks and set forth to bring them to life. Odhinn gave them soul, Vili gave motion and sense, and Ve gave being and blooming hue. These beings were the first humans and they were called Ask and Embla. Midgard was given to them to inhabit.

Once the world had been created and the gods had placed the sun and moon in the sky they made night and day. Night is a beautiful giantess with a dark complexion and hair of midnight black. Night's first husband was a man called Naglifari. Their son is called Aud. Next, Night married Annar and their daughter is called Earth. Last she married Delling and their son was Day. Odhinn then took Night and Day and gave them horses and chariots to ride across the heavens.

The sun and moon are guided across the heavens by the children of Mundilfari. They were so fair and beautiful that he called the son, Moon, and the daughter, Sun. The gods became angry at his arrogance and took the brother and sister and put them in the sky where they draw the sun and moon across the sky in chariots. They made Sun drive the horses which drew the chariot of the sun that the gods had made to light the worlds from a spark which had flown from Muspelheim. The horses which draw this chariot are called Arvak and Alsvidh. Moon is made to guide the chariot that draws the moon across the sky. This chariot is drawn by Aldsvider. Sun and Moon can never pause in their journey because they are constantly pursued by the wolves Skoll and Hati.

Now that the earth was made and had been filled with all manner of beings the gods created a home for themselves. The gods then built for themselves a stronghold in the middle of the world and it is known as Asgard. They built a bridge to connect Asgard and Midgard, and this bridge is Bifrost. Asgard is sheltered by the great world tree, Yggdrasil, which touches upon all of the worlds.

Sure is more interesting then Adam and Eve..  

(edit) Whoops sorry this aint state approved...


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TheWobble

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"Adam and Eve" as a US Standard ?
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2001, 07:00:00 PM »
Yes, a nice story, the sad fact is that there are people who believe that childen should be taught that THAT is where people came from in public schools.

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« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2001, 07:03:00 PM »
Pluse get this, if you want to teach "adam and eve" you must tell all children that homosexuals are wrong for what they are doing, and that it isnt natural (which its not) and that they are all evil, however we all know how much this country loves protecting its queers so maby the curriculum will be called

"Adam and  Eve/Steve"

 

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« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2001, 07:27:00 PM »
Wobble:

flying at Mach2 30 000 feet above the earth is not natural. It's not immoral either.

Who cares what other people do in bed?

Just love the Natural Law fallacy argument though  . Spent a whole night in #philosophy  on the undernet opping with that as a topic  .

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« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2001, 07:37:00 PM »
exactly my point StSanta

double standard delemma.

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« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2001, 10:35:00 PM »
This is all so heavy man.  

TheWobble

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« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2001, 10:43:00 PM »
Jim,
that reminds me a this radio commercial

<guys voice> "remember that time at that guys house when we got really high on that stuff from that guy?,  I was thinking about that while this song was playing and Im looking at my cat...and wow.....im like crying, and i just wanted to tell you"

<girl> sorry I had you on hold, what were you saying.

(commercial was something about marajuana)

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« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2001, 08:51:00 AM »
Oh shoot, thought it was a commercial for cheap long distance.

Personally, I want more of our exports to go to offshore countries from now on.

And as far as the schools, a large part of it has to do with the parents, and what they expect out of their child, and what the child wants to do.

For some reason, I seem to have relatively intelligent children.  I know that Eagler would find this quite confusing, but it's true!  

On a serious note, I have noticed that my sixteen year old daughter is given an incredible amount of honors and advanced placement courses as options during her semesters, and even courses that can be taken over the summer from the local university.

I remember having honors classes in high school, but not nearly the number available to students in her school now, and it really seems to be decided by the grades the children get, and their desire to push themselves more.

Of course there are a lot of kids that don't, but at least I see SOME kind of options open to the ones that do, and it seems like there are more now than when I was her age.

Hey, is Will Farrell going to be at the inauguration?

Mk

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« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2001, 08:03:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Mk10 225th:

For some reason, I seem to have relatively intelligent children.  I know that Eagler would find this quite confusing, but it's true!    

Mk

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I believe it, doesn't intelligence skip a generation  

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« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2001, 09:14:00 AM »
LOL eagler, so does baldness it seems  

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« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2001, 09:33:00 AM »
Here's the frustration-
 
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however those that believe it rained fish will continue to believe it rained fish. it is likley that noone will ever know unless they die (and thats a big maby) evolution is a fact, it actually happens, it has been observed, we see it every day in insects and mammals and bacteria.

That's TheWobble's from higher up.  Here's my bone of contention:  Lets get the "facts" straight, starting with what we mean by "fact".  There's a whole other argument in there.

Re- evolution, I challenge anyone to provide direct evidence of evolution in terms of one species evolving into an entirely other species (I'd be a fool, on the other hand, to issue any such challenge for natural selection as a process).  This is what it comes down to, for you who have evolution stuck in the craw... stop referring to it as a fact and recognize you're appealing to a theory which is based on the fact of natural selection.

Re- religion, I'm all for religious education, if only to help foster understanding between different groups. It sure makes things easier when everyone's working from the same basic knowledge.  The long and the short is, teaching religious ed in schools not gonna create a nation of zealots... that's work accomplished best in the home.

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« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2001, 11:31:00 AM »
Saw, reading through all this drivel it does not appear anyone answered your original question.

The answer is no.  Likely a rumor started by someone trying to stir anti-moral majority backlash.

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« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2001, 11:44:00 AM »
Thank you Fatty.

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